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Last post 05-28-2008 12:44 AM by Pep. 27 replies.
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  • 05-22-2008 8:49 PM

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    I'm venting - but it won't settle me down I'm fired-up for the fight.  I don't like to lose and so far the terrorists have won. 

    We had no choice but to go on the offensive and our result is costing us in every product we buy.  We've carried the world for generations because we found a way to do it by cutting back.  This time "they" are targeting our basic needs like fuel and food.  Today the Congress questioned fuel executives like they were talking with their baby brothers - or at least there were no teeth in the questions. 

    I'm now 100% convinced that our elected officials have no intention of protecting We The People.  In November we've decided to join the millions who are promising to vote out every incumbant unless we know from their voting record they are on our (the People's) side.  We've reviewed the voting record on-line on the US House and US Senate sites for the couple of Oregon politicians in office now.  Yes, its just a couple guys - we can find time for it.  So can you. Its so simple I'm still shocked. 

    One thing is for sure, we lost the war so far and I don't like to lose.  Every day that goes by our American dream and freedom is slipping through our fingers while we are too busy making a living (working more saving less).  In a few months gas will be $5/Gal and that is 100% absolutely certain.  $5 a gallon is 20-cents a mile assuming you get 25mpg.  That's $2,400.00 a year if you only drive 12,000 miles a year.  Do you have two cars and two wage earners?  Then double it to $4,800.00 a year. 

    What does this really mean to you?  If there are 22 working days in a month and if your round trip is 45 miles a day NOT INCLUDING WEEKENDS then you drive 12,000 miles a year just to-and-from work.  If it takes someone 2 gallons a day to go 45 miles a day then they will now be working one hour a day (hopefully after-tax) to buy fuel to get to work.  Then there's the weekends, and family evening activities.  

    Congress showed today its unwilling and unable to change the laws to protect our rights as Americans.  Many who can't afford 20-cents a mile will not go away for vacation, and may never see the parts of America they wanted to see, because right now they are losing their right to travel.  They will have to stay within a few miles of home most of the time because there are no big salary raises coming, most employers are smaller business and they are scared sh!^less the rug is getting pulled out.  And we are all next.

    The President doesn't matter much anymore, not enough power.  We need an entirely new Congress to vote-in anti-***-with-the-people legislation.  The-right-to-hang-lobbyists legislation.  We're voting for a clean start and a fresh cast of characters, we're voting against the couple of incumbants unless we personally find something redeeming in their voting record (not yet).

    Its nearly too late and the time is November when We The People take our Country back.

    I'll shut up now.  Come-on November!

     

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  • 05-22-2008 9:05 PM In reply to

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    Many of the Pundits are saying we will have a President Obama in November. Plus the minortiy Republicans will lose additional seat in both the house and the senate. This could mean an immediate pull out of Iraq, higher taxes and any Supreme Court Justices that retire will be replaced by an off the wall liberal. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to November.

    I'm praying the pundits are wrong.

    Less Government = Less Taxes and More Freedom - gman
    Taxation WITH representation ain't so hot either - Gerald Barzan
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  • 05-23-2008 9:46 AM In reply to

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    So you are saying your vote won't count.  These days that's almost a fact - so ask others to vote their mind.  Our Melting Pot needs to be heard loudly enough to drown out the pundits.  There's no longer room for the silent majority we need to be the vocal majority.

    gman:

    Many of the Pundits are saying we will have a President Obama in November. Plus the minortiy Republicans will lose additional seat in both the house and the senate. This could mean an immediate pull out of Iraq, higher taxes and any Supreme Court Justices that retire will be replaced by an off the wall liberal. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to November.

    I'm praying the pundits are wrong.

  • 05-23-2008 3:24 PM In reply to

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    It's the Canadian wading in where he doesn't belong again. Just a couple of quick questions. Just how are your politicians supposed to lower the price of gas at the pump? Since oil is traded on a world market they can't control the price of crude. They're only choice is to lower taxes on gas which everyone will cry is giving Big Oil a break. The world as a whole has to come to grips with a dwindling supply of a product that is more in demand everyday. I'm no environmentalist. I work for an oilfield service company in Alberta. I'm just saying there are no simple answers to this question. Everyone is going to have to change the way we think about energy consumption. Driving back and forth to work in vehicles that get 20 miles per gallon is either going to have to stop or you are going to have to pay for it, it's really that simple.

    I've got to go jump in my pickup and go home now.

    My other bike is your sister
  • 05-23-2008 3:28 PM In reply to

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    P.S

    I do agree the Terrorists have won though. You guys have given up more rights and freedoms since 911 than Bin Laden could have ever hoped for. Getting though an Airport anymore is just one small example.

    My other bike is your sister
  • 05-24-2008 1:54 AM In reply to

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    Yes you speak the truth on that.

     

  • 05-24-2008 1:56 AM In reply to

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    As far as the War on Terrorism that is what happens when politicians tell the military how to fight a war.  I think that is what happened about 40 some years back.  I gues the politicians never learn.  As far as the oil costs that is because of speculation on one hand, and yeah I guess politicians could have opened up new sites for drilling, but if there aren't enough refineries the you can have all the oil in the world and still not have enough gas and the refineries come back to the oil companies and politicians again.  Who should we vote for again, I think they all sing the same song anyway. Hmm   

    Martin A. Burley
  • 05-24-2008 6:46 AM In reply to

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    Minus countries that produce their own oil we have the lowest gas in the world

    We could drill here and produce our own oil but the *** liberals will not let us

    We could build nuclear power plants and take a drastic step in the right direction but the *** liberals will not let us.

    The current Senate and House are ruled by the Dems. Don't like how the economy is? Fire them. I didn't vote for any of them.




  • 05-26-2008 9:28 AM In reply to

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     This is one person who refuses to believe that the terrorists have won. Not on my watch. I do not see the Taliban nor Al Queda in the Whitehouse. Old Glory is still the flag waving as far as I can see.

    Things are harder...yes,....at least while we're at WAR we have not yet had to start rationing as they did when we were in WWII. C'mon people,..we're shopping and riding around in our convertables yakking on our cell phones. Or sitting at home munching on steak and watching our big screen tv's.

    Security has been tightened,..well no fucking sh!t! Ya think? The price gouging as well as the short supply is definitely a problem for so many. It takes fuel for Uncle Sam's War Machine ladies and gentlemen! 

    I'm sure freedom's and liberties in Canada has been affected as well since 911? Eh Meatball?

    Matthew 10:32...'Whoever acknowledges Me before men, I will acknowledge him before My Father in heaven. But whoever disowns Me before men, I will disown him before My Father in heaven.'
  • 05-26-2008 9:40 AM In reply to

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    Only at The Airport.
    My other bike is your sister
  • 05-26-2008 11:00 AM In reply to

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    Meatball:

     

    Only at The Airport.

     

     

    So I'm guessing your fuel prices are still pre 911 ? How about your Food prices and raw material costs? Military?

    Please. 

    Matthew 10:32...'Whoever acknowledges Me before men, I will acknowledge him before My Father in heaven. But whoever disowns Me before men, I will disown him before My Father in heaven.'
  • 05-26-2008 11:32 AM In reply to

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    gman:

    Many of the Pundits are saying we will have a President Obama in November. Plus the minortiy Republicans will lose additional seat in both the house and the senate. This could mean an immediate pull out of Iraq, higher taxes and any Supreme Court Justices that retire will be replaced by an off the wall liberal. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to November.

    I'm praying the pundits are wrong.

    I hope they are very right.

    But I am not sure anyone can fix what "We the People" are experiencing in America quickly. The issue is not that gas is expensive but the dollar is the new quarter because of years of outsourcing of jobs (and know how) to other countries. Now the other countries need US know how to compete.

    The Rider formely known as Mr Noize
  • 05-26-2008 12:24 PM In reply to

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    So you're telling me food prices are rising because of terrorism? Just checking. Actually because our dollar has become so much stronger against yours the price of a lot of things has gone down. Gas is more, but since I work in the industry it really doesn't bother me.

    My other bike is your sister
  • 05-26-2008 1:46 PM In reply to

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    AZ,
    Here's an editorial I wrote last week for our local paper (my employer). It echoes a lot of the frustration we are experiencing.

    THE CANCER IN WASHINGTON

    Let’s talk about something that’s on everyone’s mind . . . gas prices. I know it’s a sore subject, but I’ve grown weary of people just pointing out that it’s costing them so much more to drive to and from work each day. Let’s look in depth at the situation.

    In September 2006, one gallon of unleaded was about $2.10 and that was considered high. We’re now at about $3.89, which is an 85 percent increase. That means if you were filling your tank each week for about $27, it now costs you $49.95. Multiply that times 4.3 weeks and you’ve gone from a monthly cost of $116.10 to $214.79, or yearly from $1,404 to $2,597.40. Take into account that oil changes are getting more expensive, as are tires, etc.

    It doesn’t stop there. Every industry in this country is passing on its additional fuel costs to us, the consumer. You see it in higher prices on consumer goods, groceries, services, perishables, everything. It’s like sitting on the splash block below a gutter downspout in the pouring rain. Everything that comes down the tube ends up on us.

    So with the economy suffering, jobs being lost, home foreclosures at a record high and so forth, where does the average family find the money to cover the additional expenses? Many cut back on “eating out” or entertainment such as movies. Perhaps they replace their vehicles less often. The really sad part about this situation is that some are cutting back on necessities such as medicine, heat, food, etc. So, here we sit with prices rising beyond belief and wages either being reduced or remaining the same. Add to that the fact that taxes are being increased to cover those who are under-employed or unemployed and you have a very frightening situation.

    We have elected officials who are either “out of touch” with the dilemma, or being bought by lobbyists or special interest. Let’s face it, if it doesn’t directly affect them they just don’t care. They will lead you to believe that they really don’t have a good answer for the problem, but I beg to differ.

    There is enough oil under this country to sustain us for quite a long time and to write off that solution because of some environmentalists shouldn’t be an option, but we also need to build, or re-build refineries.  The one thing we need to realize is that a serious move in this direction would cause the imported oil prices to drop. If the Middle-Eastern oil nations had any indication that we were serious about drilling here, the prices would fall immediately. But we shouldn’t just discuss this. It should be done. Let the "tree hugging environmentalists" walk or pedal their butts everywhere.  No cars, buses, trains, boats, or planes for them.

    Our dependency on foreign oil isn’t our only problem. Washington has sold us all, including our own businesses (NAFTA and free trade agreements), down the river and unless we make some drastic changes in our elected officials, the future will make the “great depression” look like a short vacation.

    What could be worse than that? Look at who we have to choose from to lead our country. There isn’t one in the bunch who interests me, and the only one who hasn’t promised “the world” to get elected is McCain. I can assure you that Obama and Clinton can’t deliver 10 percent of what they’ve promised. EditedI feel sorry for the young adults who are voting for the first time in a presidential election. I would hope they would listen to those of us who have been “around the block” and have heard all this crap before, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

    I encourage each of you to write your senators and representatives and indicate your displeasure with the current trend. They need to be flooded with complaints. Just remember one thing. Party affiliation has no bearing on this. The cancer has infested nearly everyone who represents us and unless it’s removed, the fatality will be us.

    Duke Freeman







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  • 05-26-2008 2:15 PM In reply to

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     That settles it,..let's all move to Canada.Big Smile

    Matthew 10:32...'Whoever acknowledges Me before men, I will acknowledge him before My Father in heaven. But whoever disowns Me before men, I will disown him before My Father in heaven.'
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