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Last post 11-11-2009 1:33 PM by The 13th warrior. 14 replies.
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  • 11-04-2009 6:51 PM

    Engine internal sound?

    Does your warrior sound like tik tik tik tik tik or somekind of strain on the idle or when release the clutch when you start slowly , .Is not a big strain, but i wonder if is normal. I love my warrior and i don't want it sick. And if is not normal what do you think is it? Thank you

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  • 11-04-2009 7:09 PM In reply to

    Re: Engine internal sound?

    Toward the front of the engine? Only starting into first gear from a stop? Mine started doing that recently. I did some searching last night and found a few threads about it. Apparently it's just part of it, man.
  • 11-04-2009 8:03 PM In reply to

    • fake
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    Re: Engine internal sound?

    whenever I start out from a stop and have the bike in 1st gear and slowly releasing the clutch; I hear a clack calck clack sound towards the front.  It stops when the clutch is fully released and I do not hear it in any other gear.  My bike has done this from day one, so I guess it's a normal sound for my bike.

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  • 11-04-2009 10:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Engine internal sound?

    This beast of a motorcycle uses hydraulic lifters, so if you have low oil, or dirty oil, or a clogged oil filter, then you would have less oil pressure to pump-up the hydraulic lifters, and so you would hear the tappets clicking more.  This happens most when really hot. 

    You might already know this, but just in case I'll post it anyway. There is a special way to check the oil level, it is a semi-dry-sump oil system so you can't check the oil just by pulling the dipstick.  Look under the topic 'oil' in the Popular Mods post for how to check the oil.  You don't want to overfill the oil.  If the tappets lifters on top the motor under the chrome valve covers start ticking then either the oil is too thin from being too hot, or the oil is low/dirty, or the filter is dirty.

    A little ticking noise can't do any harm.  Enjoy your ride and oil-up when its convenient.  When it gets louder, then the valves won't open as far and you will feel a loss of power, and maybe some backfiring.

    Remember: motors with hydraulic lifters make a faint ticking noise all the time. 

    It sounds better than the chain noise of other bikes!

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    Does your warrior sound like tik tik tik tik tik or somekind of strain on the idle or when release the clutch when you start slowly , .Is not a big strain, but i wonder if is normal. I love my warrior and i don't want it sick. And if is not normal what do you think is it? Thank you

  • 11-05-2009 6:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: Engine internal sound?

     It sounds like you are describing a low octane problem,and getting the ping on take off. It is pretty normal.Just give it a little more gas when leaving from a stop,or if you have high compression pistons you need to run premium gas.If it is stock just use 87.

  • 11-06-2009 6:01 AM In reply to

    • timoken
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    Re: Engine internal sound?

    It could also be the crank bearing. they wear out over the years. my warrior has now 40k miles and ticking gets louder and louder. it's not the gas, it's not the oil and it's not the pistons. this happens faster if you nail it while engine is cold (like I use to do sometimes ;-).
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  • 11-06-2009 8:16 AM In reply to

    Re: Engine internal sound?

    Mine has had a slight light seady tick in the front after the break in period. She has been fine ever since. Just dove in deep to the engine for the past 2 weeks and everything was clean and looked good. I did a Compression test and both were at 190psi (HC pistons).

     Your in good shape man. As long as the tick does not get louder.

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  • 11-06-2009 8:45 AM In reply to

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    Re: Engine internal sound?

    Arizona Warrior:
    If the lifters on top the motor under the chrome valve covers

    AZ, you may want to reword that. The lifters are down with the cam, not up under the valve cover.  Smile

     

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  • 11-06-2009 1:07 PM In reply to

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    Hehe Embarrassed

    OldMan:

    Arizona Warrior:
    If the tappets lifters on top the motor under the chrome valve covers

    AZ, you may want to reword that. The lifters are down with the cam, not up under the valve cover.  Smile

  • 11-06-2009 11:32 PM In reply to

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    Re: Engine internal sound?

    Arizona Warrior:

    Hehe Embarrassed

    OldMan:

    Arizona Warrior:
    If the tappets lifters on top the motor under the chrome valve covers

    AZ, you may want to reword that. The lifters are down with the cam, not up under the valve cover.  Smile

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  • 11-07-2009 12:25 AM In reply to

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    Beer I'm not sure if you were responding to 'lifters' or 'tappets' or something else (you might not have read my prior response before replying) so ignore any misunderstanding.  Just to clarify in case helpful, I guess I used the term 'tappet' in the usual way.  In mechanical engineering its "a projection which imparts a linear motion to some other component within an assembly."  Source: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:tappet&ei=I_70SqS8LYyeswP349S0CQ&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title&ved=0CAcQkAE

    Referencing the Star Parts Website disassembled view below:  Cams (not shown) act against #16 lifters, which hydraulically act against #14/#15 push rods while also pumping engine oil, which in turn act against #9/#10 lifter assembly which integrates tappets as projected levers to act on the valve stems, and the entire #10 assembly lives within the cylinder head assembly, which is covered by the chrome 'valve cover' (shown as 'cover, cylinder head' in the separate Star parts website disassembled view).  The term is the same as in automotive.  This is how and why I used the term 'tappet'.

    In this case, since the #9/#10 fabrication includes the tappets, and there is no other projection down below imparting a linear motion to the valve (the cams don't qualify), it seems the tappets reside under the valve cover like the now-ancient big block and small block detroit iron I used to rebuild modify and hot rod for college money in the old days (no silver spoon here).  

    AlanH:

    Arizona Warrior:

    Hehe Embarrassed

    OldMan:

    Arizona Warrior:
    If the tappets lifters on top the motor under the chrome valve covers

    AZ, you may want to reword that. The lifters are down with the cam, not up under the valve cover.  Smile

    • So are the tappets Big Smile

  • 11-07-2009 8:30 AM In reply to

    Re: Engine internal sound?

    If it makes the noise at idle use a piece of vacuum hose with one end stuck in your ear & touch the other end to various areas on the motor to pinpoint the location of the noise. Be sure to check the exhaust pipe connections at the heads, a small exhaust leak will tick like a loose rocker arm or worn lifter when the motor is cold.

    Post your results.

  • 11-07-2009 8:37 AM In reply to

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     I find a set of Samson ripsaws w/o baffles usually helps with the little ticks and creaks everyone hears.Big Smile The ticks will instantly disapear, its a miracle!Stick out tongue

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  • 11-09-2009 3:37 AM In reply to

    • Matt
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    hmmm i think we have somethihng in common

     lemme see if i understand whatyour saying...cuz i think i may have the same noise occuring..

    when i am at a complete stop. and i try and i try and go under 1500rpms i get a clank sound like tick tick tick untill i get to 1500rps then it goes away... its subtle but noticable.. its almost like the engine is having a hard time..

     I asked a bike tech and he said keep the rpms over 1500rps from complete stop to avoid this and it does work

    but is the sound supposed to be there if i am under 1500rps trying to go from complete stop i dunno.. lemme know what you find out

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  • 11-11-2009 1:33 PM In reply to

    Re: hmmm i think we have somethihng in common

    I also have this same noise. started after my first service at the dealer, n i have listened to it for 7000 miles now. it seems to be louder in the summer months, n i have also noticed that if you roll on the gas from around 50 in 5th it taps also but you have to listen for it. i figure when it breaks ill find out what it was as im putting in my hc kit.

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