The Yamaha Road Star Warrior Forum

DarkStar:

By far the HD looks better then the picture of the Raider.

In what respect?  The spindly front forks?  The bicycle front tire?  The untreated engine metal?  The lack of an effective braking system?

C'mon Dark give us a few specifics.  I'm really interested in what people see in that Harley, beyond maybe the shiney rims.  

saddlebagus:

DarkStar:

Yes, they are mounted to the swingarm......Why would that be a concern?

 

Because the swingarm bounces up and down with the road while the rest of your pillion is happily damped by a shock absorber leaving her feet experience the joy of every piece of gravel on the road.  This can be minimized by mounting the pegs as close to the swingarm pivot as possible, but still.  Do you own a Harley Dyna model?

hahaha!  That just sounds stupid.  Because it is.  Those pegs are mounted so close to the pivot point of the swingarm that I'll bet they don't move more than 1/4 inch up and down at the MOST, probably about 1/8 of an inch if that.  Every piece of gravel on the road?  I suppose you would feel a pea under your mattress, too?  

saddlebagus:

DarkStar:

By far the HD looks better then the picture of the Raider.

 

In what respect?  The spindly front forks?  The bicycle front tire?  The untreated engine metal?  The lack of an effective braking system?

C'mon Dark give us a few specifics.  I'm really interested in what people see in that Harley, beyond maybe the shiney rims.  

No, you're not.  You're just showing your ass at this point and you know it.  And you misspelled "shiny."  

Shag:

saddlebagus:

DarkStar:

Yes, they are mounted to the swingarm......Why would that be a concern?

 

Because the swingarm bounces up and down with the road while the rest of your pillion is happily damped by a shock absorber leaving her feet experience the joy of every piece of gravel on the road.  This can be minimized by mounting the pegs as close to the swingarm pivot as possible, but still.  Do you own a Harley Dyna model?

 

hahaha!  That just sounds stupid.  Because it is.  Those pegs are mounted so close to the pivot point of the swingarm that I'll bet they don't move more than 1/4 inch up and down at the MOST, probably about 1/8 of an inch if that.  Every piece of gravel on the road?  I suppose you would feel a pea under your mattress, too?  

How about the Unsprung weigh? But if the pegs work 4 U on the swing arm....

I like the Look of the Raider...

I also like the Soft Tail Springer SE.... Changed it up with some cam..Wow I bet U will look Soooooooo Coooool right up to the time the week case on the 110 lets go....Harley was just waiting 4 U to do that so they don't need to Honor the warranty.... 

warriordude:

How about the Unsprung weigh? But if the pegs work 4 U on the swing arm....

Hmmm...  Mine didn't seem to slow me down any when I was smoking that Warrior twice in a row with my Harley.    I think I might have even mentioned that on this forum at some time in the past.    HO HO HO!!!

 Ahh, how refreshing.  Nice to see the Harley "experts" out in force on this thread.  Too bad they don't sh*t about the bikes

If we are talking 30's, this is nice.

http://www.bigbearchoppers.com/bikes/devils_advocate/two-up_prostreet/photos/1.htm

DarkStar:

  Yes, they are mounted to the swingarm......Why would that be a concern? Never put any thought into where passenger pegs should be mounted or not. I would like to hear your thoughts on the mounting location. They work well where they are located comfort wise for passenger.

Wow, you guys are sure defensive.  I asked if they were mounted on the swingarm, that's all.  My eyes aren't all that good and the pic is small so I couldn't tell. I was curious OK?   I don't recall ever having a bike with them on the swing arm.  That doesn't mean I haven't had one, just that I don't remember it if I have.   But yeah, now that it has been brought up, it doesn't seem like an ideal location.

madav8tr:

 Ahh, how refreshing.  Nice to see the Harley "experts" out in force on this thread.  Too bad they don't sh*t about the bikes

ya know at the beginning of this thread, you didn't even need to know anything about bikes, just had to have a simple opinion on which one of two you liked the look of best. but it would seem that by the mir fact that one is a Harley ,seem to bring out the  fear? envy? hatred?  i don't know what it is. i would bet if it was a triumph instead of a Harley ,responses would have not been so heated. why some of you Hate a motorcycle in Public is beyond me

   DS my response to the peg mount was based on a different forum discussion complaining about the comfort due to that location, although my wife only mentions the stock seat and not pegs.........and i just walked home from a neighborhood Halloween party and my judgment might have been "slightly impaired"

Shag:

No, you're not.  You're just showing your ass at this point and you know it. 

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/2006_harley_davidson_fxdwgi_dyna_wide_glide/index.html

"The passenger pegs are mounted on the front of the swingarm, so bumps come through more solidly than if they were attached to a totally sprung part of the bike."

And why so defensive?  I don't hate your Harley.  Darkstar asked a question and I answered with the design disadvantages pointed out by virtually ever review I've read on the new Dyna line.

Shag:

And you misspelled "shiny."  

Forgive me, Mr Shag, I don't do "shiny."

madav8tr:

 Ahh, how refreshing.  Nice to see the Harley "experts" out in force on this thread.  Too bad they don't sh*t about the bikes

Ahh, how refreshing.  Nice to see the Harley "apoligizers" correcting all the misinformation and leading us to a better understanding of the bikes

saddlebagus:

Shag:

No, you're not.  You're just showing your ass at this point and you know it. 

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/2006_harley_davidson_fxdwgi_dyna_wide_glide/index.html

"The passenger pegs are mounted on the front of the swingarm, so bumps come through more solidly than if they were attached to a totally sprung part of the bike."

And why so defensive?  I don't hate your Harley.  Darkstar asked a question and I answered with the design disadvantages pointed out by virtually ever review I've read on the new Dyna line.

 

Even you are not that stupid...  I hope.  You know good and damn well that you were simply being a smartass in your reply commenting about the bicycle front wheel, blah blah, etc etc. Nothing more than that.  Just being a smartass.  You could at least admit it and not ALSO become a damn liar.  

OldMan:

DarkStar:

  Yes, they are mounted to the swingarm......Why would that be a concern? Never put any thought into where passenger pegs should be mounted or not. I would like to hear your thoughts on the mounting location. They work well where they are located comfort wise for passenger.

Wow, you guys are sure defensive.  I asked if they were mounted on the swingarm, that's all.  My eyes aren't all that good and the pic is small so I couldn't tell. I was curious OK?   I don't recall ever having a bike with them on the swing arm.  That doesn't mean I haven't had one, just that I don't remember it if I have.   But yeah, now that it has been brought up, it doesn't seem like an ideal location.

Shag:

You know good and damn well that you were simply being a smartass in your reply commenting about the bicycle front wheel, blah blah,

Aha, so that's why you're so touchy.  Your Harley doesn't have a bicycle tire or spindly forks, so why sweat it?

Shag:

Just being a smartass.  You could at least admit it

Okay, so I admit I may have used a euphemism or two to make my point.  But really, look at small diameter forks on the Harley vs the Raider or even compare their front 21" tires, the Raider with a wide, low profile, modern rubber and the Harley with a tire that appears designed around the time of the Big Bopper.

I got nothing against Harleys in general Shagadoodle. I just don't see the appeal of the one originally posted.

most of this bull doesnt matter because the question is looks not how it works or runs and so on. they both sell they are both put to good use im sure and if you fall off of either one at 40mph you will more the likely need more then a bandaid.dont like the hd dont buy it, dont like the raider dont buy it, buying owning and what they are all about is not the issue , looks was the question.   btk572