The Yamaha Road Star Warrior Forum

Last friday i stopped by a local dealer and talked for about an hour and did some looking about for any changes in the 09 warrior..The Power commander 5 will hook up just fine to the prior rsw's (~04 to 08).   WHY Dynojet is advertising their PC V only works with 09 bikes i have no idea.  This is an exact quote from friday when i had a chat with yet another salesman at dynojet, he said,"Weather or not it works on prior year bikes i cannot say, we market the power commander 5 for 2009 year bikes only and we warranty them for 2009 bikes only."  He had no explination as to why i can clearly see the 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, and 09 bikes use the same ecu, wiring harness, and other fuel management "parts" yet they dont market the PC V for the 08 and prior. Im just wondering what the deal is?   Mabey they are afraid the pc-v is going to glitch and cook an engine or two??  Mabey they are relying on good old MFG warranty to help out with the repairs? Who knows??  You basically cant go wrong hooking up the pc5  i mean it does use an in line harness to the ecu, so no wire taps.. and it can auto tune, and i seriously doubt anyone would ride with a constant ping and backfire going on... then again you never know i suppose
Who knows..again, obviously the salesmen dont want to offer any info.. 
So as it goes the RSW main wiring harness hasnt changed much if any since 2003~4.. neither has the ECU - at least not from 06 and newer it hasnt.  Get on a dealer fiche and take a look. matching numbers for both items.
The only though in my mind is why the F*^! did mike shefler at dynojet tell me they had issues with adapting the ecu connectors for the prior bikes?  consider the bull$hi^ flag raised friends..   im going to pick up a pcv soon enough.   According to sources there are no changes to the bike that shouldnt allow the power commander 5 to work any differently than on the 09..

Chris

 From what I understand talking to our Drag rep. you are correct about the years.  Should have no problem working with all year Warriors. But it is set up for auto tune only on bikes with O2 sensors.  Our Warriors are not running O2 sensors with the fuel injection.  You will still need to Dyno tune and build a custom map for them.  However, the PCV looks like it has a few more options than the PCIII did so you may be able to fine tune it a little more than before. Is it worth the money to get rid or your PCIII??? The first to do the switch and gain even 1% more on the dyno please let me know,  I'll spend the money for another hp or two.

The best info we have as of today is the ECU harness is identical, however be aware there was a flag raised that its 'possible' the wiring harness to the 2009 ECU was re-organized or that a new wire(s) were added to comply with 2009 air quality rules (even though the oxygen sensors were not added for 2009).  I have not looked into this topic very much since I'm not in the market for a PC5.  IMO we really need someone with a 2009 bike to have a close look at their ECU and match the number/color/order of the wires at the ECU plug to the service manual wiring diagram. 

As already clarified by others above, the 2009 Warrior exhaust does not have oxygen sensors, however Dynojet makes oxygen sensors to match their PC5 so it would seem the closed-loop system can be installed for self-tuning, but I don't know if the physical space exists (you need one sensor in each head pipe).

The dealer will not have as much Warrior-specific info as resides here in these forums.  Did you do a search for "PCV" or "PC5" yet?  Also, the best info I've seen is that the Warrior TPS plug is the same physical shape for all years however my only support of this statement is I've never read a post saying otherwise. 

Dynojet recently added their Warrior-specific TPS plug to its PC3 and PC5.  IMO there's some confusion by some dealers between this Dynojet TPS plug feature, and the 2009 ECU wiring.  My gut feeling is the 2009 Warrior ECU wiring harness is identical to prior years (again, tho, I have no proof yet).

Without the oxygen sensors the PC5 is further hobbled.  Even with them, the PC5 cannot deploy all its features (like rev extend) on the Warrior.  Maybe the PC6 will one day accomodate our bike more fully.

From what i have gathered, the harnesses are the same, even at the ecu.  it is possible though that there is a wire tap/break somewhere in the line and reprogrammed on the ECU to use the sensors. 
I took a look at an 09 the other day and i didnt notice anything different.  Either i was just in shock to find the connector the exact same as my 06 and didnt notice the addition of an O2 sensor, or there just wasnt one.. but we all know how good yamaha is at hiding things!  In any case, the manufacturer part numbers do not change not are there any tsb/notes made about any changes.  Now if i could just get my hands on a copy of the wiring schematics of the 09 just to kicks.. that would be ideal.    Im still convinced, same part numebrs, same parts... just a weird paint job is all that appears to have changed.

As far as ridding of the pc3, i believe in the long run of things it will be worth the money to go with the power commander 5 in the respect to not needing to get a new map every time i want to turn up/down the boost or associated power changes - or plink away at button settings, im  a little impatient anyway! set it to close loop cycle and gradually increase!   this almost elliminates the need to share maps or do blind tuning with a air fuel monitor and exhaust gas temp... that is the old school way of doing it - and frankly i imagine i suck at toting around a laptop just to change 10 milliseconds  or more of a fuel pulse only to find its too much, too little, or just enough..  Maybe if i were in a car then id be singin a different tune then...

AZ i hope one day the power commander will do everything.. its all in the software.  we should be able to do our own ignition tables by now but that hasnt happened without an additional piece of hardware...     Im having a vision.. PCX, the fully yamaha compatible fuel and ignition controller...thats the size of a tic-tac box.  I hear ya on that one!