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  • 11-19-2009 7:38 AM

    Time to Pray for Obama

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    I've decided at this point, prayer is all I can offer.  So every day I'm going to pray Psalm 109:8 

    New International Version
    May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.

    New American Standard Bible
    Let his days be few; Let another take his office.

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    Let his days be few [in number]. Let someone else take his position.

    King James Bible
    Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

    American King James Version
    Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

    American Standard Version
    Let his days be few; And let another take his office.

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  • 11-19-2009 8:01 AM In reply to

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    LOL While I agree that prayer is needed and do also pray for the President, I fervently pray that he not be replaced by either Joe Biden or far worse, Nancy Pelosi. Just serve out his term and fade into a Carter obscurity, but hopefully not to become like the bitter, hateful Carter..... except for Carter's one great thing "Habitat for Humanity."
  • 11-19-2009 9:43 AM In reply to

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    LOL While I agree that prayer is needed and do also pray for the President, I fervently pray that he not be replaced by either Joe Biden or far worse, Nancy Pelosi. Just serve out his term and fade into a Carter obscurity, but hopefully not to become like the bitter, hateful Carter..... except for Carter's one great thing "Habitat for Humanity."
     

    Leave it to Centerline to turn a nice post, an almost religious experiance into a political rant. You just cant give it a rest can you.

     

  • 11-19-2009 10:50 AM In reply to

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    I'd like to add to this with a quote from Joe Wilson (AKA: CADFather):

    "NO FO' MO' FO' OBAM'O"

    (You heard it here first, now to get the bumper stickers printed.)



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  • 11-19-2009 11:33 AM In reply to

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    Hah - and for a minute I thought you were being somewhat clever - but it turns out you just got it from a bumper sticker.  After a couple years of RSW religious threads, I should have realized that the resident godbotherers don't know the bible well enough to make something like this up on their own.

     

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  • 11-20-2009 1:54 AM In reply to

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    Well, no I don't know the Bible well enough to dig that particular Psalm up out of my head. I just learned someone printed it on bumperstickers.... imagine that, who would have thunk it? Ahh, if only I had your unimaginable, unattainable intellect and wisdom, your amazing faith in the religion of Darwin and the utter understanding of the Big Bang and then everything just magically coming together in a most incredible sequence of intelligent organization from the bits. To have the faith of a child is something I pray for. You're in my prayers quite frequently for the hardened rusted layers over your heart to be softened, while I recognize that God chooses whom he chooses, and the rest just see the Bible as a bunch of meaningless gobbledygook.
  • 11-20-2009 7:52 AM In reply to

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    Damon:

    Hah - and for a minute I thought you were being somewhat clever - but it turns out you just got it from a bumper sticker.  After a couple years of RSW religious threads, I should have realized that the resident godbotherers don't know the bible well enough to make something like this up on their own.

     

     

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    If talking politics is out, how am I going to find out who the Idiots are?

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  • 11-20-2009 1:04 PM In reply to

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    Well, no I don't know the Bible well enough to dig that particular Psalm up out of my head. I just learned someone printed it on bumperstickers.... imagine that, who would have thunk it? Ahh, if only I had your unimaginable, unattainable intellect and wisdom, your amazing faith in the religion of Darwin and the utter understanding of the Big Bang and then everything just magically coming together in a most incredible sequence of intelligent organization from the bits. To have the faith of a child is something I pray for. You're in my prayers quite frequently for the hardened rusted layers over your heart to be softened, while I recognize that God chooses whom he chooses, and the rest just see the Bible as a bunch of meaningless gobbledygook.
     

    Huh.  There's a religion of Darwin that teaches everything just magically came together, and it aslo claims to have utter understanding of the big bang?  I had no idea.  Seems kind of silly to put Darwin's name on it, since magic, spontaneous generation, intelligent design and the big bang have nothing to do with evolution.  You really have no idea what it is you're making fun of or denying, do you?

    The bible isn't meaningless gobbledygook.  It just makes many claims we now know to be completely wrong, and advocates a moral system that isn't compatible with civilized people.  It's not nonsense, and I understand it just fine.  It's just immoral and inaccurate.

    Damon Allen - Las Vegas, NV - 2008 H-D V-Rod



  • 11-20-2009 1:24 PM In reply to

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    Everything just magicaly coming together? I thought that was what the Bible teaches?

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  • 11-20-2009 1:38 PM In reply to

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    Damon:

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    Well, no I don't know the Bible well enough to dig that particular Psalm up out of my head. I just learned someone printed it on bumperstickers.... imagine that, who would have thunk it? Ahh, if only I had your unimaginable, unattainable intellect and wisdom, your amazing faith in the religion of Darwin and the utter understanding of the Big Bang and then everything just magically coming together in a most incredible sequence of intelligent organization from the bits. To have the faith of a child is something I pray for. You're in my prayers quite frequently for the hardened rusted layers over your heart to be softened, while I recognize that God chooses whom he chooses, and the rest just see the Bible as a bunch of meaningless gobbledygook.
     

    Huh.  There's a religion of Darwin that teaches everything just magically came together, and it aslo claims to have utter understanding of the big bang?  I had no idea.  Seems kind of silly to put Darwin's name on it, since magic, spontaneous generation, intelligent design and the big bang have nothing to do with evolution.  You really have no idea what it is you're making fun of or denying, do you?

    The bible isn't meaningless gobbledygook.  It just makes many claims we now know to be completely wrong, and advocates a moral system that isn't compatible with civilized people.  It's not nonsense, and I understand it just fine.  It's just immoral and inaccurate.

    You nailed it. I have no understanding whatsoever how it all came together..... but of course, you do. Wow, a moral system incompatible with civilization. Yeah, those 10 Commandments, those are real ball busters... for sure a little difficult, but incompatible?? Jesus command to love your neighbor or fellow man...yeah, that is incompatible as well... I see your point. I struggle with the love your fellow man stuff, but have progressed from hatred of anybody (difficulty with wacko extremist Islamics) and I'm working on the emotions I assign to my ex. By Darwin, I mean the true faith of belief in the "evolution " of species. We could not have evolution, which apparently is nearly universally accepted, without the Big Bang, also nearly universally accepted, which presumably occured I would assume before evolution got started. I point out the astounding faith to believe in the big bang blowing (everything??) to space plasma and other assorted bits, and then the elegant, spontaneous rearranging of all the various assundry pieces to life, precision order and physical laws.
  • 11-20-2009 1:44 PM In reply to

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    Damon:

    The bible isn't meaningless gobbledygook.  It just makes many claims we I now know to be completely wrong, and advocates a moral system that isn't compatible with civilized people.  It's not nonsense, and I understand it just fine.  It's just immoral and inaccurate.

    Please restrict your denials to yourself unless you have a mouse in your pocket or something.

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  • 11-20-2009 2:15 PM In reply to

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    Damon:

    The bible isn't meaningless gobbledygook.  It just makes many claims we I now know to be completely wrong, and advocates a moral system that isn't compatible with civilized people.  It's not nonsense, and I understand it just fine.  It's just immoral and inaccurate.

    Please restrict your denials to yourself unless you have a mouse in your pocket or something.

     

    By "we" I don't mean you and me.  I mean that the inaccurate and contradictory nature of the book is well-known among people in general.  It's part of the general body of human understanding and knowledge.

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  • 11-20-2009 2:33 PM In reply to

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    You nailed it. I have no understanding whatsoever how it all came together..... but of course, you do.

    You could read a few books and maybe visit a museum or a couple lectures or something, and then you wouldn't have to say that you have no idea about this stuff.  No one has a comprehensive understanding, of course, but being clueless in the 21st century is kinda sad.

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    Wow, a moral system incompatible with civilization. Yeah, those 10 Commandments, those are real ball busters... for sure a little difficult, but incompatible?? Jesus command to love your neighbor or fellow man...yeah, that is incompatible as well... I see your point.

    You talk about this as though your knowledge of your own religion is limited to only the few bits of the bible commonly used in churches by clergymen who don't want to upset anyone.  What about the very next line of the psalm you used to start off this thread: "may his children be fatherless and his wife a widow."  Yep - real moral.  Asking your invisible friend to murder people definitely has a place in civilized society.

    Read the whole book, not just the fashionable bits.

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    I struggle with the love your fellow man stuff, but have progressed from hatred of anybody (difficulty with wacko extremist Islamics) and I'm working on the emotions I assign to my ex.

    I don't struggle with that at all.  Funny how the godbotherer has to work at not hating people, but having a general feeling of human solidarity and compassion for everyone comes naturally to the godless heathen.

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    By Darwin, I mean the true faith of belief in the "evolution " of species. We could not have evolution, which apparently is nearly universally accepted, without the Big Bang, also nearly universally accepted, which presumably occured I would assume before evolution got started. I point out the astounding faith to believe in the big bang blowing (everything??) to space plasma and other assorted bits, and then the elegant, spontaneous rearranging of all the various assundry pieces to life, precision order and physical laws.

     

    Nothing you said is an accurate description of anything scientific.  It sounds like you came from the Creationist School of Science, where they just make up ridiculous parodies of science and then pretend the absurdity of those parodies prove that god exists. Lying for Jesus is still lying.

    Before you try to refute something, at least learn something about it.  This should go without saying, but "I don't understand how evolution works" is not a valid argument against evolution.

    Damon Allen - Las Vegas, NV - 2008 H-D V-Rod



  • 11-20-2009 2:39 PM In reply to

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    If you wish to use "we" in the context of belonging to a group of people who share a common disbelief, then certainly. However, I disagree that all religion being "nonsense" is part of the general body of human understanding and knowledge.

    Although the number of athiests and agnostics is rising, the number of people converting to Islam is rising far faster, (far faster than the number of people converting to any Christian belief in fact) and the overall number of people in the world who practice some kind of faith, vastly outnumbers atheists and agnostics. People are rapidly shifting faiths from one to another as well. 

    Although this study is limited to the U.S., here is a Pew study to educate you. http://religions.pewforum.org/reports  As you can see, "Unaffiliated" is listed at 16.1%, with Atheists comprising 1.6% and Agnostics comprising 2.4%. Agnosticism isn't even an outright denial of religion in the way that Atheism is, so you're really quite in the minority.

    Look Damon, I know you have no use for faith and that's cool because you're entitled to your own beliefs or lack of them but you should really stop making unsupported claims that the rest of the world agrees with you, and stop acting like you're here to educate the rswarrior forum as if it's the last bastion of religious retard-holdouts. You know all of those religious symbols that you cleverly have in your signature line? Those people VASTLY outnumber you, they outnumber people who think like you, and do not acknowledge that faith is nonsense.

    When refuting the validity of general faith-based beliefs (especially when making the sweeping, general statements that you do), the safest, most correct arguement you can use begins with "I" or "The athiest community" and to a certain extent "the agnostic community".  I know it comforts you to believe that more people believe as you do in order to validate your feelings but you should just accept that your lack of belief is the minority view and be comfortable with that.

     

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  • 11-20-2009 2:41 PM In reply to

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    Damon:

    Sushi_Biker:

    Damon:

    The bible isn't meaningless gobbledygook.  It just makes many claims we I now know to be completely wrong, and advocates a moral system that isn't compatible with civilized people.  It's not nonsense, and I understand it just fine.  It's just immoral and inaccurate.

    Please restrict your denials to yourself unless you have a mouse in your pocket or something.

     

    By "we" I don't mean you and me.  I mean that the inaccurate and contradictory nature of the book is well-known among people in general.  It's part of the general body of human understanding and knowledge.

    damon must be the queen of england. 

    as i am sure he knows all too well (what doesnt he know?) that the only singular person in the world who can use the word "we" and have it be grammatically correct when speaking of oneself is the queen of england.

    the last time i checked, "we" does not mean "the inaccurate and contradictory nature of the book is well-known among people in general".

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