The Yamaha Road Star Warrior Forum

TopGear:

RodRiguez your bike and the picture are Sweeeeet. Very clean and "hybrid" looking as one member put it re: a single can.

Great info, thanks to all that replied. I think the slip-on is a great idea, because you still get the hybrid look, if that's what you like.

Now, I'm not going to make any friends here with this, but here goes: Regarding those who have said that loud pipes save lives.... I'd have to say for every life (or crash) that a loud pipe saved, there's 1,000 lives that defensive riding has saved. If you have put yourself in a situation where you can be squeezed into a gaurd rail, then you are doing something wrong. That car DOES NOT SEE YOU. And hell, with the kids and thier music, they might not hear you either. Besides that, sound is hard to localize when you are driving, so I have my doubts that a cager is thinking "hmmm, I hear a loud pipe towards the left back pillar, I shall not change lanes".

Don't ride the blind spot, and when you overtake, do it fast and on the outside of the lane with an escape route planned ahead of time. You are invisible.

 

 

 

 

Well said topgear, I think loud pipes help to some degree but you do have to be defensive cuz cagers just dont watch out for us riders. They are too busy on their pda's and cell phones to be paying attention to what is going on around them, almost everytime they cause an accident the statement is made....I JUST DIDN'T SEE HIM OR HER......gee I wonder why dumba$$..?

I have the vance&hines Big Shots on my warrior and I love the sound they produce and look better on the bike than the big and bulky stock exhaust. IMO.

freerider

TopGear:

.... I'd have to say for every life (or crash) that a loud pipe saved, there's 1,000 lives that defensive riding has saved.

+1!  I know the pipes have saved me at least four times over the years - riding since 1966.  I can't even begin to count the times they made no difference at all. 

Hey Rob, thanks for suggesting the wide variety of slip-on's. I think I'll check them out. Whatever I do, I don't want to lose the deep rumble. I'll take tone over sheer volume any day.

 Regarding the stock can mods- I've read many happy  posts in the archives from people who cut out parts of the baffle. It seems (seemed?) to be very successful until the aftermarket caught up and offered a variety of replacements.

 I have just changed from Bub Chambermaids to the Speed* system and I can tell you its the first time that I could ride over 5 miles without ear plugs.  The stock can is just too long IMO.  I know that someone on the site cut theirs down to about 2/3 the size and it look much better. BTW, the Speed* system kinda looks to me like a "lite" stock can after having the shorties on for so long.

Rob, ever think about painting your can black to match the rest of the bike?  That would be a sharp looking system with the midnight.

Sushi, for the sound alone I highly recommend the Roadhouse. I have heard the cobra megaphone gets NICE and deep with the baffle in but mine did not come with one and, since they are not made any more, its hard to find just the baffle. I just dont like the looks of the cone mufflers personally. I may be able to recommend the D&D once I get that one on. Id love to get vid/sound of them all for Arizona to add to his pop mods but I just never seem to find the time.

AllSmiles, Yes I have the hightemp flat black already. I just need nice weather and time. I usually have one or the other for so long that when the 2 do occur at the same time I go out riding and to hell with the paint.

jhcarcagno08, Butt dyno has not noticed ANY difference in performance over the 4 pipes Ive tried (Stock, Roadhouse, Holeshot, Cobra megaphone) Ive checked plugs after each swap and 100 miles and plugs all look decent. I have not changed ecu settings at all. Just because I have not doesnt mean you will not have to.

 It intimidates the less manly riders in the group!!  

MrWilson:

 It intimidates the less manly riders in the group!!  

 i would expect that out of you

 the statement is made....I JUST DIDN'T SEE HIM OR HER..

I've had somebody pull out in front of me, stop, wind down their window and use almost those exact words.

It was in 1977. I was on an XS750 triple with a three into one - the stock system was three into two massive low slung mufflers - that made way more noise than the afformentioned.

It gets better; I was also riding with my headlight on and was attired from head to toe - OK, neck to ankles - in a one piece dayglo orange Helly Hansen sailing suit over my leathers. You could have seen me from *** MARS!

Nothing, NOTHING, not loud pipes, not a loud horn, not a  hi viz jacket, will save me or you from the complete numpties that are allowed to get behind the wheel of a car and take it on the public highway.

The only thing we can ever do is assume 100% of the time that they haven't seen us, won't look for us and actually don't care.  And ride accordingly.

I too like RobRiguez'z slip-on, looked at the Roadhouse jobby and liked that. But until the stocker starts looking like a collander I'm sticking with it, I reckon.

TopGear:

 Hey all,

Let's say I'm in the minority and I like the look and sound of the stock exhaust. So, aside from looks and sound, what's so terribly wrong with the stocker that 90% of you have changed? 

Can I hear from someone who has kept the stock exhaust and is happy with it? 

I find the vendors I rent the ad. space on the side of the can to would prefer if I rode a bit slower apparently IT'S ALL GOOD AUTO SALES is hard for people to read at 120 Mph...?

jhcarcagno08:

Hey warpig...did you notice any performance gain or loss with the holeshot slipon? I have been going back and forth between full pipes and some type of slip on, and i really do like the "hybrid" look that makes the warrior so unique.

no difference at all I really didn't even get much more backfiring than with the stock can but to be honest thats what I like about it the performance stays the same just the volume goes up and then only when I get on the throttle I can still creap in and out of the hood.

actually it's a jardine but looks the same

i am getting ready to put the stock exhaust back on because i miss the quiet.  i don't know what it's going to do the performance, probably there will be no noticeable difference.  it will be nice to twist the throttle without signaling to all the unseen cops that i am around and getting on it.  i tend to agree with those who say the stock muffler is what makes the warrior unique, plus it gives it more of a sportbike look as opposed to a 2-2 configuration.

 Ahh, the forums...

I'm in the "stock" camp. First, my preference is for a quiet bike. I don't want loud, but that's me. Second is an engineering issue. The thing may weigh a ton but doesn't the stock muffler balance the weight of all the goodies on the left side of the bike? I have ridden stock sportbikes then the same bike with pipes/slipons and there is, in my estimation, a balance issue. And I know the maps/ECUs for the aftermarket exhausts handle things like fuel and air mix but how does it handle things like back-pressure? Again, I prefer to trust the original engineering. That said, I'm all for reverse-engineering and redesigning a machine into something better, faster and stronger, but not for me.

ffilmar:

 Ahh, the forums...

I'm in the "stock" camp. First, my preference is for a quiet bike. I don't want loud, but that's me. Second is an engineering issue. The thing may weigh a ton but doesn't the stock muffler balance the weight of all the goodies on the left side of the bike? I have ridden stock sportbikes then the same bike with pipes/slipons and there is, in my estimation, a balance issue. And I know the maps/ECUs for the aftermarket exhausts handle things like fuel and air mix but how does it handle things like back-pressure? Again, I prefer to trust the original engineering. That said, I'm all for reverse-engineering and redesigning a machine into something better, faster and stronger, but not for me.

I will say it again 90% of the people cannot be wrong.......