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How'd you manage that Rhat?  All I can change is the name that shows up on my profile page, not my forum name.

Is now a good time to jump in and remind you that infidel is an English word and that Muslims don't use it?  Muslims refer to Christians and Jews as "people of the book", and unbelievers/believers in non-Abrahamic religions as kuffar, which is sometimes mistranslated to infidel, even though the meanings differ.

Again, infidel is an English word used by Christians (mostly Catholics) to describe someone who doesn't believe in god, or sometimes, someone who doesn't accept Cathlolic dogma.

In other words, you're using the term incorrectly, and looking very silly in the process.  You should come up with something else.

Looks like the definition of the word is OK to use in the context it's being used here so, I wouldn't exactly call it silly. I know Damon would because if your words aren't a parrot of his thoughts, he assumes you silly.  Man oh man, sometimes it must be hard being perfect 

infidel (IN fi duhl, IN fi del") 1. A person who does not believe in a religion which another person regards as the true religion: "Even in modern times, we hear about someone who condemns another person of being an infidel."

                   OR

 The Oxford English Dictionary lists several definitions for infidel, all of which have many attributed historical usages.  It would appear the modern use of infidel did originate from English-speakers, but in reference to non-believers in Christianity, including "Mohammedans" and "Saracens." 

These usages are from the first definition: one who does not believe (what the speaker holds to be) the true religion; an unbeliever

• Tyndale, 2 Cor. VI:15, (1526): "what parte hath he that beleveth with an infidele"
• Tim. v.8: (no date) "the same denyeth the fayth and is worsse than an infydell"

• Malory, Arthur (1470-1485): "two honored Saracens who are infydeles"
• Fabyan, Chron. (1494): "if any thyge be done to honoure of the Cristen, and reproche of infydelys it is most lykely to be done by vs."
• Hall, Chron., "infideles and unchristened peoples"
• The Book of Common Prayer (1548-1549): "have mercy upon all jewes, turkes, infidels, and heretikes"
  
• Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice (1595): "Daniel, Jew, now Infidell, I haue thee on the hip"

There is much more information in the OED, but no mention of when Muslims first used it to refer to non-Muslims.

Washingtonwarrior:

Looks like the definition of the word is OK to use in the context it's being used here so, I wouldn't exactly call it silly.

You're right - it works, but only barely.  The context of the current American "proud to be an infidel" fad seems to embrace the idea that muslims refer to non-muslims as infidels, hence the shirts with "infidel" in Arabic on them (like the one in the photo gallery on the infidel club page).  Since muslims don't refer to non-muslims, especially Christian non-Muslims as infidels, the fad is based on a misconception and a misuse of the word, and therefore looks silly.

Washingtonwarrior:

I know Damon would because if your words aren't a parrot of his thoughts, he assumes you silly.

Not so much.  If you're going to criticize me, at least criticize qualities I actually have, rather than those you just make up and pretend I have.

Washingtonwarrior:

Man oh man, sometimes it must be hard being perfect

I wouldn't know.

I wanted to but I got tired of thinking, it hurt my head and stuff

Damon:

Not so much.  If you're going to criticize me, at least criticize qualities I actually have, rather than those you just make up and pretend I have.

OldMan:

How'd you manage that Rhat?  All I can change is the name that shows up on my profile page, not my forum name.

Hmm, let me add one thing:

At the top of this screen hit 'edit profile' then select the 'about' tab then change the 'name' field and select SAVE.  Presto! 

Damon:

In other words, you're using the term incorrectly, and looking very silly in the process.  You should come up with something else.

whatever, kaffir.

Infidel Rat:

Hmm, let me add one thing:

At the top of this screen hit 'edit profile' then select the 'about' tab then change the 'name' field and select SAVE.  Presto!   

Nope, that won't change my screen name, only the name shown on the topright side of my profile page.

Damon:

Again, infidel is an English word used by Christians (mostly Catholics) to describe someone who doesn't believe in god, or sometimes, someone who doesn't accept Cathlolic dogma.

In other words, you're using the term incorrectly, and looking very silly in the process. 

I don't accept Catholic dogma.  I am then, according to you, not using the term incorrectly.  I saw that pic of you posing, who looks silly? 

Damon:

Washingtonwarrior:

I know Damon would because if your words aren't a parrot of his thoughts, he assumes you silly.

Not so much.  If you're going to criticize me, at least criticize qualities I actually have, rather than those you just make up and pretend I have.

I'm pretty sure if we took a vote a majority would agree with WA Warrior.

Damon:

Washingtonwarrior:

Man oh man, sometimes it must be hard being perfect 

I wouldn't know. 

Actually, it's not all that bad.

OldMan:

Infidel Rat:

Hmm, let me add one thing:

At the top of this screen hit 'edit profile' then select the 'about' tab then change the 'name' field and select SAVE.  Presto!   

Nope, that won't change my screen name, only the name shown on the topright side of my profile page.

Hmm, I'm blessed I guess.  A blessed Inifdel, go figure!

edit:  this post seems to agree!: http://rswarrior.com/forums/t/121305.aspx?PageIndex=1

Infidel Rat:

OldMan:

Infidel Rat:

Hmm, let me add one thing:

At the top of this screen hit 'edit profile' then select the 'about' tab then change the 'name' field and select SAVE.  Presto!   

Nope, that won't change my screen name, only the name shown on the topright side of my profile page.

Hmm, I'm blessed I guess.  A blessed Inifdel, go figure!

 

edit:  this post seems to agree!: http://rswarrior.com/forums/t/121305.aspx?PageIndex=1

I just tried it and it worked.  Look at the last post on the link above from Infidel Rat.  Click on the "Site Option" tab and make sure that "Display Name is set to YES.  Then it works when you change your name and save it. 

MrFreeze :

I just tried it and it worked.  Look at the last post on the link above from Infidel Rat.  Click on the "Site Option" tab and make sure that "Display Name is set to YES.  Then it works when you change your name and save it. 

Testing Testing. 1. 2. 3......

Infidel Rat:

whatever, kaffir.

Please be careful with that term, else you could be labeled as rascist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaffir_(ethnic_slur)

According to Merriam-Webster the term "Infidel" would be more correct in this context http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infidel

CADFather:

Infidel Rat:

whatever, kaffir.

Please be careful with that term, else you could be labeled as rascist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaffir_(ethnic_slur)

According to Merriam-Webster the term "Infidel" would be more correct in this context http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infidel

Hmm, more then one meaning apparently.  From Dictionary.com:

n.   pl. Kaffir or Kaf·firs also Kafir or Kaf·irs

1. Offensive

   1. A Xhosa.

   2. often kaffir Used especially in southern Africa as a disparaging term for a Black person.

2. Kafir A Nuristani.

3. also kaffir Islam An infidel.

[Arabic kāfir, infidel; see giaour.]

The reference here is #3, unless Damon is black - heh heh
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