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I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

Last post 10-30-2008 6:27 AM by JamesD. 7 replies.
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  • 10-29-2008 10:29 PM

    • fastmvr
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    I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    I posted a question day before yesterday and got some very helpful information from a couple of 4m members.  After their advice, I called my stealer and ordered (overnight) a stock "clutch kit" to fix my slipping problem prior to going on a long 3 day trip this weekend.  My stealer called me today and said my clutch kit was in.  I rushed over, picked it up, went home....opened the box and immediately thought "is that all there is?".  I decided to do some more 4m research and realized that my "clutch kit" is actually the clutch boss assembly (pn: 5PX-16370-10-00).  Is this all I need to repair my problem?  I would have thought that a kit would include all of the friction and steel plates.  Obviously I have never done this before but am willing to try it.  I consider myself mechanically capable (especially when compared to the jokers at my local stealer who argued that the warrior is carbeurated).  Any ideas???

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  • 10-29-2008 10:48 PM In reply to

    Re: I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    I believe this free 2002 service manual covers the same clutch: http://www.paulmilner.com/yamaha/handbuch/warrior_service.pdf

    I copied this from the 2007 data to match your bike, in case anything is different from the '02 manual above:

     
    1 4WM-16111-00-00 GEAR, PRIMARY DRIVE   1
    2 4WM-16193-00-00 KEY, FEATHER   1
    3 4WM-16181-00-00 SPACER 1   1
    4 90101-12011-00 BOLT   1
    5 5PX-16340-00-00 PUSH LEVER ASSY   1
    6 90508-16007-00 SPRING, TORSION   1
    7 4WM-16382-00-00 AXLE, PUSH LEVER   1
    8 92907-08600-00 WASHER, PLATE   1
    9 99001-07600-00 CIRCLIP   1
    10 93317-11020-00 BEARING   1
    11 93102-15212-00 OIL SEAL   1
    12 93315-31502-00 BEARING   1
    13 91314-06020-00 BOLT   1
    14 4WM-16150-00-00 PRIMARY DRIVEN GEAR COMP.   1
    15 5VN-16154-00-00 PLATE, THRUST 1   1
    16 5PX-16370-10-00 CLUTCH BOSS ASSY   1
    17 26H-16385-00-00 RING, CLUTCH BOSS   1
    18 26H-16384-00-00 PLATE, SEAT   1
    19 1FK-16383-00-00 SPRING, CLUTCH BOSS   1
    20 26H-16321-01-00 PLATE, FRICTION   1
    21 26H-16324-00-00 PLATE, CLUTCH 1   1
    22 26H-16307-01-00 PLATE, FRICTION 3   6
    23 26H-16321-01-00 PLATE, FRICTION   2
    24 26H-16324-00-00 PLATE, CLUTCH 1   7
    25 1FK-16351-00-00 PLATE, PRESSURE 1   1
    26 1FK-16334-10-00 SPRING, CLUTCH 2   1
    27 1FK-16335-00-00 HOUSING, SPRING   1
    28 5PX-16352-00-00 PLATE, PRESSURE 2   1
    29 97007-06025-00 BOLT   6
    30 93306-00304-00 BEARING   1
    31 5PX-16383-00-00 SPRING, CLUTCH BOSS   2
    32 4XV-16356-01-00 ROD, PUSH 1   1
    33 90208-20001-00 WASHER, CONICAL SPRING   1
    34 90179-20007-00 NUT   1
    35 5PX-81673-00-00 ROTOR   1
  • 10-29-2008 11:38 PM In reply to

    • fastmvr
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    Re: I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    Thanks AZ Warrior, the above information is where I realized that the "clutch kit" was not an all inclusive description as I thought it would be.  Will the part that I got repair my problem or do I need to order the corresponding clutch and friction plates as well.  I thought that when you order a clutch rebuild kit, all of the wearable parts are included.  I thought that I had made my situation clear to the dealer....but then that is why I ALWAYS consult this 4m first.  Just an idea, but it seems that someone could make a pretty good living by responding to posts like my original and then sending ALL of the correct parts needed to accomplish the stated task.  Just dreaming out loud.

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  • 10-30-2008 12:08 AM In reply to

    • Scoper50
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    Re: I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    Why did you wait till you got home to open the box?  Whenever I buy auto parts I always open the box at the store to make sure it's right.  I know you don't know exactly what you need, but somebody at the dealership might have possibly steered you in the right direction.

  • 10-30-2008 12:42 AM In reply to

    • fastmvr
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    Re: I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    I do know better but I also should have pulled the above info prior to my ordering something so critical overnight.  Hopefully, one of my local dealers will actually stock the clutch and friction plates.  Am I just not remembering correctly, or aren't there clutch rebuild "packs" or kits that include all of the wearable parts of a clutch for other motorcycles.  I could have sworn that I was in a bike shop recently (can't remember which brand) and saw a "clutch kit" in a blister pack which seemed to include the friction / clutch plates.  Also, is the clutch boss assembly something that wears out often?

    I refuse to tiptoe gingerly through life, only to arrive safely at death.
  • 10-30-2008 12:51 AM In reply to

    • AlanH
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    Re: I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    The Clutch Boss Assy with all its related parts will not solve your problem and shouldn't be req'd at such low miles. There isn't a "Clutch Kit" PN by Yamaha. You need to order the individual parts listed below!

    • 6 - Item 22 PLATE, FRICTION 3 
    • 2 - Item 23 PLATE, FRICTION 
    • 7 - Item 24 PLATE,CLUTCH 1 
    • 1 - Crankcase cover gasket 5VN-15451-00-00 

    I would suggest a Barnett pressure plate conversion kit w/ std gold springs or a new Clutch Diamphram Spring (26) or a Speed* equivalent since you overheated the whole assy!

    If you don't go with the Barnett you should inspect the existing pressure plate.

    Edited: Here's a video by Redhorse:

    http://img485.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img485%2F5723%2F1149054461ef2.smil

    Clutch plate replacement pointers:

    Barnett Info by writer: http://rswarrior.com/forums/p/29213/392300.aspx#392300

    http://rswarrior.com/forums/p/29213/429400.aspx#429400

     

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  • 10-30-2008 1:37 AM In reply to

    • fastmvr
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    Re: I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    Unbelievable help!!!!!!  Thank you so much AlanH.  Proof again that this is the best damn 4m!

    I refuse to tiptoe gingerly through life, only to arrive safely at death.
  • 10-30-2008 6:27 AM In reply to

    Re: I am sooo confused ... clutch problem

    As usual Alan is correct.



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