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Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

Last post 10-14-2008 1:02 AM by parkinglot. 27 replies.
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  • 10-13-2008 7:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    Alan, which turn signals are those in your photo?

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  • 10-13-2008 8:35 AM In reply to

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     I'm running the yamaha eliminator kit like many others are.  I think the light strip looks good with the bracket like Alan's got but I went a different route for now.  I got two mini bolt lights from Kuryakyn for a few bucks.  It has a head cover on the alan head that has a slit in the side so the white LED light projects down onto the plate...lights it up pretty good.

  • 10-13-2008 8:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    SWODude:
    I wired it by splicing one of the wires into the rear light wire and grounded the other wire around one of the license plate bolts.

     

    why didnt you use the original license plate light wire??

    I think I will not pay taxes this year...
  • 10-13-2008 10:49 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    It's settled. I'm getting the Yamaha kit. I already have an LED Frame, so, hopefully I can reuse it. Thank you all for the help!
    '02 Warrior Haven't figured it all out yet.
  • 10-13-2008 10:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    I also want to know what lights Alan has...
    '02 Warrior Haven't figured it all out yet.
  • 10-13-2008 11:45 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    parkinglot:

    SWODude:
    I wired it by splicing one of the wires into the rear light wire and grounded the other wire around one of the license plate bolts.

     

    why didnt you use the original license plate light wire??

    Used bike, my friend.  The original owner had installed those chintzy-ugly cat-eye signals, but left the OEM front turn signals.  The wires were in an electrical tape bunch.  I ended up buying some rear signals from a 2005 Warrior (I also bought 2005 front signals so I could have the clear lenses) and I undid the wire mess and soldered and heat-shrinked the turn signal wires.  I did the same with the tail light and brake light wires.  Since the tail light and license plate light are always on (when the bike is running, of course), I simply soldered both together along with the LED wire.  I then heat-shrinked the whole thing and it works just fine.  It's been like that for nearly a year.

  • 10-13-2008 1:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    parkinglot:

    SWODude:
    I wired it by splicing one of the wires into the rear light wire and grounded the other wire around one of the license plate bolts.
    why didnt you use the original license plate light wire??
    +1 ... unless the previous owner of SWODude's bike cut the 2-license plate wires (blue & black), the bullet female connectors would be available.

    The Yamaha fender harness originates under the seat w/ a 5-pin connector. The single GRND wire is branched at the taillight as is the license light. Yamaha wiring methodology/practice is to use a Hard Wire GRND for all connections. Wiring the GRND under the license plate screw/chassis is not a secure and long lasting connection because of corrosion and vibration IMO. The use of dielectric grease will enhance this type of connection.

    FYI, there are only 2-chassis GRNDs used on the Warrior discounting the battery. The Starter Motor & the Neutral switch all other connections are hard wired Geeked

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  • 10-13-2008 1:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    cltgt:
    I also want to know what lights Alan has...

    Radiantz HID License Plate w/ Kuryakn 2372 Mini Silver Bullets Wired as Running Lights & Turn Signals

    For more details: Rear LED Turn Signal http://flickr.com/photos/15071518@N07/sets/72157602604624591/detail/


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    Front Turn Signal Info here as requested:

    Regarding the brackets, try this member svalenti : http://rswarrior.com/forums/p/111111/913800.aspx#913800

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  • 10-13-2008 1:45 PM In reply to

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    cltgt:
    It's settled. I'm getting the Yamaha kit. I already have an LED Frame, so, hopefully I can reuse it. Thank you all for the help!
                     thanks for starting this thread it helped me make up my mind and i went with the yamaha one too.....

    tearing it up for 4 months . and fixing it in 8 months
  • 10-13-2008 2:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    That is an awesome setup and superb installation job Alan!
    '02 Warrior Haven't figured it all out yet.
  • 10-13-2008 8:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    AlanH:

    parkinglot:

    SWODude:
    I wired it by splicing one of the wires into the rear light wire and grounded the other wire around one of the license plate bolts.
    why didnt you use the original license plate light wire??
    +1 ... unless the previous owner of SWODude's bike cut the 2-license plate wires (blue & black), the bullet female connectors would be available.

    The Yamaha fender harness originates under the seat w/ a 5-pin connector. The single GRND wire is branched at the taillight as is the license light. Yamaha wiring methodology/practice is to use a Hard Wire GRND for all connections. Wiring the GRND under the license plate screw/chassis is not a secure and long lasting connection because of corrosion and vibration IMO. The use of dielectric grease will enhance this type of connection.

    FYI, there are only 2-chassis GRNDs used on the Warrior discounting the battery. The Starter Motor & the Neutral switch all other connections are hard wired Geeked

    I get what you're stating, but the fact is that the frame utilizes LEDs, which draw a smaller current than an incandescent bulb.  Also, the Radiantz frame's wires are pretty long, about 8 inches.  I stripped a considerable portion of one of the wires (about 6 inches, and even cut a few inches) and then wrapped it several times around the bolt.  I also used the clear Locktite (which is mostly silicone) and screwed the nut on.  I'll take a picture to post if you'd like.  It's been working for me.  If it eventually corrodes, I'll fix it.  The reason the ground works is because the fender eliminator is bolted to the fender, which is bolted to the frame.  No smoke and mirrors here.  And yes, the previous owner completly bungled the wiring.  I had the bike not even two weeks and my speedo and tach shut off.  Upon coming home, I looked in the fuse box and saw the fuse had blown.  I then checked the wiring and, sure enough, two of the wires had drooped and the tire chafed them.  The wiring was a mess of electrical tape and wire nuts.  So I went through it and cut and stripped the end of every wire.  I then soldered and heat-shrinked connectors to the ends.   I followed up by zip-tying the wires together to keep them from ever contacting the tire.  If you're going to join wires, at least do it correctly (this is the Sailor coming out in me; we NEVER authorize the connecting of wires with electrical tape or wire nuts on our ships - we even ban two-pronged devices like irons!  We join wires with solder and heat-shrinked tubing.).  Interestingly, I wasn't even mad about redoing the wiring.  I was more irrated that the previous owner had bungled the wires for the sake of installing $15 POS cat-eye signals.

  • 10-13-2008 10:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    SWODude:

    I get what you're stating, but the fact is that the frame utilizes LEDs, which draw a smaller current than an incandescent bulb.  Also, the Radiantz frame's wires are pretty long, about 8 inches.  I stripped a considerable portion of one of the wires (about 6 inches, and even cut a few inches) and then wrapped it several times around the bolt.  I also used the clear Locktite (which is mostly silicone) and screwed the nut on.

    SWODude ... not to have the last word here but Surprise 

    • Fact: the smaller current draw of the LED's represent a much higher resistance which requires a more secure GRND and the thread lock compound used could be an insulator. The enemy here is extreme vibration and corrosion prevalent at the taillight IFEK!

    I stated the facts and my opinion earlier. No photo req'd for this writer Wink

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  • 10-14-2008 1:02 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need under tail kit photos and ideas...

    SWODude:
    The wiring was a mess of electrical tape and wire nuts

     

    sounds like my old man may have helped the previous owner on this one...haha...I hear your pain and wish you best of luck with your setup.  I myself debated led's like alanh's but I really like the mdwright setup..any cons on that would be nice, but all I've read so far says its a good idea..

    I think I will not pay taxes this year...
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