The Yamaha Road Star Warrior Forum

I replaced the key switch with a after market switch. What I want to know is the stock switch has four wires (red)(blu blk)(yel blk)(brown blk)and the knew one has two wires (red) and (white). Can i wire red to red the other 3 to white? Well I did this know bike wont start

1.All speedo tack lights come on and fuel pump comes on.

2. Bike turns over can smell fuel.

3. checked  plugs no spark.

I was reading in other post that bike has a safty featuers that kills the power to coils. Does anybody know more about this?  And how to get around this.

lilmo .... I suggest you read this post completely for some background for possible damages. No Neutral light: http://rswarrior.com/forums/p/119776/963149.aspx#963149

The Warrior OEM ignition switch has 2-isolated normally open contacts. The switch you purchased has only 1. You need to trigger a relay with 1-N.O. contact. The switch you purchased should have a contact rating of 35Adc and should be wired to the Warrior Red (+12v) and Brown/Blue (Switched +12v). There isn't a Brown/Black that i'm aware of unless it's a model year difference.

The Blue/Yellow & Blue/Black wires should be connected to the new N.O. contact of the triggered relay and the coil should be connected to the Brown/Blue and GRND.

Trouble shooting suggestions: Most immediately you need to disconnect the 2-digital ground wires BLU/YEL & BLU/BLK from the +12v supply. These 2-wires must be connected during the KEY-ON sequence as if connected when the ignition switch is turned on. As suggested earlier read the No Neutral light thread as a guide line. At this point it's a crap shoot as to what the damage is.

Regarding your statement, "Safety Features" ..... what OEM devices have you removed or defeated ... It's obvious that the Kill Switch is connected as the engine turns over

Reference Mat'l for trouble shooting:

Warrior Electric Starting System-Enhanced Schematic & More: http://rswarrior.com/forums/t/113929.aspx

Warrior Wiring Diagram w/Text Descriptors Added: http://rswarrior.com/forums/p/27165/287057.aspx#287057

Why would you buy an aftermarket ignition switch?  Some parts such as this should only be replaced with yamaha parts.  Damn the cost

Thanks AllanH will read up on it. Well Yamaha dealer screws me everytime I walk in their. Plus they act like they dont want to touch anything thats custom or mod. Oh AllanH ur right (brown blue) not (brown black) my bad.

Scoper50:

Why would you buy an aftermarket ignition switch?  Some parts such as this should only be replaced with yamaha parts.  Damn the cost

There are more than a handful of Warriors on this site that are sucessfully using alternate means for the ignition switch.

Yep I gess ur ok as long as u know what u doing.

Read the post u sent me AllanH Not understanding some of the eletrical talk or words for me its clear as mud. But got it started this way not that its right.Ok OEM key switch to HD key switch. Ok HD switch has two wires (red)+(white) OEM female pluge from bike has (brown blu) (Yellow blu) (black blu). What I did but I put red from OEM pluge to red on HD switch and brown-blu  to white on HD switch. The Yelow-blu and black-blu tied together then turned the key switch on and hit the start button. Did not start, the engine light was on so I pulled the cluch in two seconds later the light went out. Clutch still pulled in cluched hit the start buttom it started. Got it!! so I thought then let the cluch out and it died. All the lights work neutrel light works when I put in 1st gear neutrel light goes out.

joe:

The Yelow-blu and black-blu tied together then turned the key switch on and hit the start button.

Joe, What I think AlanH said was that the (black-blue) + (Yellow-Blue) should only be "tied together" when the ignition is ON, you will need a relay to accomplish this. (as AlanH stated)

Wait for AlanH to further clarify this, but I think this is what he meant...

Also let us know if you modified/bypassed any other things that may affect the bike from starting like:

1. Your SideStand Switch
2. Your Clutch Switch
3. your Kill On/Off Switch

and so on...

joe:

I thought then let the clutch out and it died.

Was the Bike in gear when you did this?
Was the kickstand down when you did this?

In no way will any of my questions Help you out, but I'm just curious...

BTW AlanH, Nice Diagrams

A  relay switch, would that be same as a toggel switch off on? The  SideStand Switch is bypassed about two month now. Clutch Switch and Kill On/Off  switch still the same.

quote user=joe"] I thought then let the clutch out and it died.( What I meant was So I thought I had it fixed and then when I let the clutch lose the bike died.)

check the post by bpk0816, (Headlight,Tach/keyreloc,Int wiring)

joe:

A  relay switch, would that be same as a toggel switch off on?

It's not the same, but it does the same thing just automatically.

For example when you turn on your ignition the 12v current will activate the relay (this would be the same as you flicking the toggle switch) and when you turn the ignition off, the lack of current will deactivate/open the switch, this way you dont have to toggle the switch manually.

it looks like this... (this might not be the model you need just a sample pic)

And the diagram/schematic of how the realy works is like this...
"Main 12V in" could be your "Yellow/Blue" and the "Main 12v out" could be your "Balck/Blue"

This is the Basic workings of a (Normaly Open relay)...

I'm not saying this is what you need I'm just showing you what relay is and how it works.

Can'nt start bike in first gear with clutch pulled in. Will only start in neutral the clutch pulled in when I release clutch it dies.  I Jumped the clutch switch and it will keep running in neutral clutch out. Pull clutch back start bike in neutral drop it into first gear and it dies. How do i check my relay switches?

joe:

Can'nt start bike in first gear with clutch pulled in. Will only start in neutral the clutch pulled in when I release clutch it dies.  I Jumped the clutch switch and it will keep running in neutral clutch out. Pull clutch back start bike in neutral drop it into first gear and it dies. How do i check my relay switches?