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Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

Last post 05-14-2009 2:38 PM by Luc. 12 replies.
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  • 08-18-2008 8:26 PM

    Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    I put the Akitadog plate and the V-BAK on and am having a small problem.  Everything went together good but my tank isn't fitting right.  I can tell one of the coils is touching the front facing velocity stack. I have adjusted the stack every which way I can but it still touches.  The touching doesn't bother me I just don't think it is letting the plate sit low enough and something is hitting the tank. The plate itself is sitting about 1/4 inch below the top of the frame rail. Does that sound about right? I can get the tank bolted down but there is about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch of resistance. Then when it is bolted down  the tank sits up a quarter inch or so.  What am I doing wrong?

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  • 08-18-2008 8:51 PM In reply to

    • 67fb
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    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

     I remember this being discussed previously,  but cant find the old thread. 

    I had VBAK and the akitadog plate and the clearance between the front coil and the velocity stack was pretty small.   Check and make sure you dont have the velocity stack on backwards.  Short end twoards the throttle body?  

    You also might be able to bend the front tab on the coil plate to lift it just a bit.  

     Regarding the tank,  I bet the resistance is just the tail of the tank rotating down.  Everytime I put the tank back on,  the tail had to be pushed a little to settle into place for the bolts.  

     I'll keep searching for the old post, it had some good pics. 

  • 08-19-2008 11:39 AM In reply to

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    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    baclay9:

    I put the Akitadog plate and the V-BAK on and am having a small problem.  Everything went together good but my tank isn't fitting right.  I can tell one of the coils is touching the front facing velocity stack. I have adjusted the stack every which way I can but it still touches.  The touching doesn't bother me I just don't think it is letting the plate sit low enough and something is hitting the tank. The plate itself is sitting about 1/4 inch below the top of the frame rail. Does that sound about right? I can get the tank bolted down but there is about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch of resistance. Then when it is bolted down  the tank sits up a quarter inch or so.  What am I doing wrong?

    If using Churkey's V-Bak be sure that the short side of the SS elbow faces the rubber sleeve and  throttle body. You can also remove a small scalloped segment at the top edge of the rubber sleeve on the inside of the elbow to aid in pointing the stack slightly down and closer to the valve cover.

    On my install, the left coil, Cyl 1, has the primary leads facing fwd and the secondary (plug wires) facing toward the rear. The K&N filters adjust eccentrically which is obvious and just clear the LCV. This allows the coil relocate plate to be depressed within the frame.

    Here are some detailed photos of the mods. Hopefully they will shed some light!

    AAkitadog's Coil and sensor relocate plate: http://flickr.com/photos/15071518@N07/sets/72157602604625531/detail/

    Churhkey's V-Bak: http://flickr.com/photos/15071518@N07/sets/72157602604621931/detail/

    Left Coil, Cyl 1,  Bottom Rear View - Taken from right side of bike looking toward throttle cables

    Left Coil for No. 1 Cyl showing routing of Hi-Tension Wiring.

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  • 08-19-2008 12:24 PM In reply to

    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    I guess I just need to do some more moving around until I get it right. I got so frustrated with it yesterday I had to walk away from it.  I did start the bike for a minute though so I guess I got everything hooked up correctly.  Let me ask you this.  I wound the excess plug wires for the rear cylinder up ontop of the rear cylinder head. The rear facing K & N seems to be pretty cramped back there between the wireing harness, the plug wires, and the FPR relocation.  I guess it will get plenty of air.  It just doesn't have near the openess of the front facing filter

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  • 08-19-2008 4:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    When I did V-BAK and relocation plate I had the same problems.  First I had the SS elbows upside down so the stacks were sitting too high, after reversing the SS elbows the tank fit better but still had some resistance.  I then fiddled with the positioning of the rear stack, I agree it's tight back there but you should be able to get everything to sit corrected so that the tank doesn't ride high.  Oh, and I also got rid of the cushion between the tank and old air box.

    I agree Coil 1 and the Forward filter are very close or touching. The plate sitting 1/4 inch below the top frame sounds about right.  It may just be a matter of getting everything on the rear end to fit.

  • 08-19-2008 5:38 PM In reply to

    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    OK I took another shot at it and I think I got it right. The tank is sitting in there pretty well now.  I repositioned the spark plug wires and the wireing harness so I could push the rear facing filter as far to the right side as possible.  OK here is another question. There is still a wire running down the right down tube with a connector near the neck. How do I hide it. There is also a quarter inch wire bundle running from the main loom near the neck that goes under the neck and down the left downtube. It is running with those two vent tubes coming from the tank. I would like to get rid of the wires and the vent tubes also if someone can tell me how. Thanks.

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  • 08-19-2008 5:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    You can join the two vent tubes together with a T and run a line under the tank and out in back of the battery. The wires on the left down tube you can re-route along the bottom of the frame on the right side then up to under the seat just be careful where you run them, it will also take quite some time and you may need to extend them. not sure what you are talking about on the right side, can you post a picture? I am at least 1000 miles from either of my Warriors right now.

  • 08-19-2008 6:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    My bike is still on the lift over at my dads shop or I would snap a pic real quick.So I need to run the wire on the left down tube all the way back under the seat, down the the bottom of the frame and then back up to the front again? That does sound like it will take a while.  The wire on the right downtube looks like it goes to the wire loom attached to the rectifier and maybe runs the horn or the brake light switch.  Thanks again.

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  • 08-19-2008 6:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    Yes you can run those all along the bottom of the frame to under the seat where they end up. You will have to take apart the entire wire harness from the seat all the way up to the rectifier, horn, starter, ect. to seperate the wires to re-route them. When you run them on the bottom frame rail just be careful you run them along the top of the frame rail so you don't scrape them to pieces in the twisties. I have not done mine yet but I plan to this winter mod season as I will have plenty of time to do it. I remember seeing on another post though that is the way to go if you want to hide all the ugly wiring.

  • 08-19-2008 8:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    baclay9:

    I guess I just need to do some more moving around until I get it right. I got so frustrated with it yesterday I had to walk away from it.  I did start the bike for a minute though so I guess I got everything hooked up correctly.  Let me ask you this.  I wound the excess plug wires for the rear cylinder up ontop of the rear cylinder head. The rear facing K & N seems to be pretty cramped back there between the wireing harness, the plug wires, and the FPR relocation.  I guess it will get plenty of air.  It just doesn't have near the openess of the front facing filter

    The rectifier, horn & brake light switch wiring all remain on top and run across the area where the coils & LCV were mounted. They come out of the back of the main harness and hug the bottom of the top wishbone frame at the neck and run on the left down tube as originally built.

    I suggest you look at the previous photo threads provided earlier and open the photos full size for the details Sad Angry

     Larger Image Here shows the FPR location, etc: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/2778964891_8a5132a955_o.jpg

    Vent Tubes: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2359/2253703065_48ffcec7a8_o.jpg & http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2300/2253703329_08d9fc39c6_o.jpg

    Right Side Cyl 1 Ignition Wire Routing: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2296/1686984136_94cbce0849_o.jpg

     

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  • 08-19-2008 8:22 PM In reply to

    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    Excellent pic Alan. Thanks alot. I am going to go back and run my plug wires like that.

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  • 05-14-2009 2:20 PM In reply to

    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    You might have the coils bolted on wrong its a tight fit in there i know that

     

  • 05-14-2009 2:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: Problem with coil relocation plate & V-BAK

    jonesfamily4:

    You might have the coils bolted on wrong its a tight fit in there i know that

     

    I hope he had this figured out in August of last year.  Wink

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