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MPG Info for 2009 Yamaha Models

Last post 09-27-2008 12:20 PM by RobRiguez. 16 replies.
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  • 07-30-2008 3:01 PM

    MPG Info for 2009 Yamaha Models

    These numbers don't take wind resistance and uphill/downhill into account so they are sometimes high.  However my MPG calcs in real-world riding have me at 39mpg right now, pure coincidence but what the heck. BTW this is the first indicator I've seen that a 2009 Warrior exists - but admittedly the data could have been taken from the 2008 model to meet the 2009 rule change.

    From: http://hubpages.com/hub/Finally-2009-Official-EPA-Harley--Yamaha-MPG-Figures

    Yamaha has finally bitten the bullet and has issued MPG figures for its motorcycles. After decades of shying away from stating any form of fuel economy for its models, the pressure of $143+ a barrel petroleum has convinced the triple tuning fork folks to finally attach MPG figures to its model specifications.

     

    The United States Environmental Protection Agency (US EPA) Federal Test Procedure (FTP, not to be confused with the web's file transfer protocol), is a particular process which according to the EPA is "designed to measure a vehicle's tailpipe emissions under urban driving conditions." The FTP is conducted on a chassis dynamometer and the motorcycle is not ridden on the streets or a track by a rider. The dyno test is run through a simulated distance of 11 miles at an average speed is 21 mph at an average ambient temperature of 75 degrees F. The test takes the motorcycle through a series of accelerations, decelerations, as well as times of idling, and includes cold starts and hot starts.

     

    What does the FTP have to do with real world fuel mileage? Not much. The FTP is engineered to quantify the levels of pollutants issuing from the motorcycle's exhaust system. The Carbon Dioxide emissions are used to calculate MPG. This is somewhat akin to measuring how many miles you've walked not by determining the distance you've covered but by collecting and measuring your perspiration. It's damn near ludicrous. It's no wonder that people are being alienated from their own governments' bureaucratic absurdities.

     

    The EPA sucks $7.2 billion dollars out of the wallets of US taxpayers and unfortunately it can't find the money to get some high school kid to ride some motorcycles around DC for an hour or two and calculate the real world MPG. Although the EPA conducts government-mandated fuel-economy tests for automobiles, there is no such testing procedure for motorcycles, even at a critical time in the country's history when fuel economy is the number one issue affecting Americans. So we're left with the FTP which has become the de facto procedure even though it's largely imaginary. Yeah, I always ride my bike at an average of 21 mph too. Duh.

     

    Yamaha wisely places a disclaimer on these EPA FTP-derived figures by stating that the motorcycle's actual mileage "will vary depending on road conditions, how they ride, and the maintenance of each vehicle, vehicle accessories, cargo that may be carried and the operator's and passenger's weight." Yeah. No kidding. A scrawny kid babying the bike to school and back is going to get better mileage than two 300 pounders doing burnouts at stoplights. I didn't know that. Double Duh.

     

    Here are Yamaha's figures. Take them with all the grains of salt on the Bonneville Salt Flats:

     

    Motorcycles

     

    • FJR 1300 • 39
    • FZ1 • 35
    • FZ6 • 40
    • R1 • 33
    • R6 • 40
    • R6S • 42
    • Raider • 42
    • Road Star • 36
    • Roadliner • 42
    • Royal Star Tour Deluxe • 42
    • Royal Star Venture • 42
    • Stratoliner • 42
    • TW200 • 78
    • V-Star 1100 • 44
    • V-Star 1300 • 42
    • V-Star 250 • 78
    • V-Star 650 • 49
    • Warrior • 39
    • WR250X/WR250R • 71
    • XT 250 • 73

     

    Scooters

     

    • Majesty • 51
    • Morphous • 56
    • Tmax • 47
    • Vino 125 • 96
    • Vino 50 • 110
    • Zuma • 123
    • Zuma 125 • 89

     

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  • 07-30-2008 3:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: MPG Info for 2009 Yamaha Models

     wow, 110 mpg on the Vino 50...gotta get me one of those when gas hits 7$ a gallon.

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    Re: MPG Info for 2009 Yamaha Models

    That's good info. I guess that means there is a 2009 Warrior even though it is not listed on the Yamaha site on the 2009 model page. Plus I didn't notice the VMAX.

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  • 07-30-2008 8:15 PM In reply to

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     The old Vmax got like 25mpg if you drove it like a grandma. I've never seen a worse bike for gas mileage. My older brother bought one new and it sucked gas like a full size sedan. He got a big bore kit or something a stroker kit maybe that bumped it to about 1500 something cc's (been a long time ago) and he had some work done to the carbs and did a few clutch and transmission mods and was getting 33mpg or so afterwards. He had it for about 5 years and got rid of it. He said he was tired of filling it up constantly and it was a beast to drive anywhere except in a straight line.

     If they cant get 35-40mpg out of the new one then they arent trying at all. My B-King gets 42-45mpg and thats a lot of riding around in the city. I am getting 50mpg on the highway and it only has 900 miles on it so another 1k miles and it should be even a little better.

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  • 08-04-2008 11:58 PM In reply to

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    I get up to 50 mpg on the Modded Stratoliner (2000cc) with a nearly perfect custom fuel map that is optimize for efficiency below 20% throttle. I do expect the new Vmax to come in higher that the Roadliner & Raider. I would guess 45mpg. Very sad but the turbo has not bee touche the 30s in a while... ;-)
  • 08-06-2008 10:04 AM In reply to

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    My 02 warrior get way better gas mileage then the numbers posted and so does my FJR. My last ride on the FJR average 48/last ride on the warrior average 50.

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  • 08-06-2008 1:31 PM In reply to

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    Whats the formula to figure out mpg?

  • 08-06-2008 2:46 PM In reply to

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    Formula #1 is how you calculate your miles/gallon. Just fill your tank, ride it then fill it back to where it was when you began.

    Since every measurement has some uncertainty associated with it, formula #3 will give you an idea of what the total estimated error is in your mpg figure.

     

    For example:

    You ride 100 miles (based on your odometer) and you refilled your tank with 2 gallons (measured at the pump). That gives you 50 mpg (100/2). Now you can estimate the uncertainty in that using #3.  What is the estimated error in your odometer, maybe 3%? How close to the original mark did you come when refilling your gas tank? Maybe you could fill it back to within 24oz? Those small errors add uncertainty to the final answer of 50 mpg. If you plug in 3% of 100 miles and 0.19 gal you find that you have an uncertainty of ~ 5mpg. So your actual mileage would fall between 45-55 mpg based on the errors of how you calculated it.

    NOTE: Equation #3 is derived from #2 and calculates what the maximum possible error could be (+ or -) in the answer to #1.  It defines a range of values that could be valid answers to #1 based on the measurement error in the variables of equation #1.  In reality, the chance that the true value is at the extreme end of the range is very remote since the individual errors don't usually act in the same direction (ie: some errors will cancel each other out).



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  • 08-07-2008 1:00 AM In reply to

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    If mpg is so important get a honda rebel. Cannot figure out the obsession with mpg on this website. The warrior is not a bike you buy with gas milage in mind. It is still better than about any car and definatly better than any truck you could be driving. Ride your warrior hard and have fun.

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  • 08-07-2008 10:35 PM In reply to

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  • 08-07-2008 11:13 PM In reply to

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  • 09-27-2008 8:27 AM In reply to

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     I noticed HD gives the Horse power first and then MPG  LOL

  • 09-27-2008 8:39 AM In reply to

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    Yea and at the same time they cleverly hide the "requires 91-octane fuel" bit down in the boilerplate past the end where it's easily overlooked.  And when they discover it, most buyers buy-into it because its a harley after all and it deserves the best fuel.  So much for truth in advertising Whisper

    shadow670:
      I noticed HD gives the Horse power first and then MPG  LOL

  • 09-27-2008 8:44 AM In reply to

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    skybejef:

    If mpg is so important get a honda rebel. Cannot figure out the obsession with mpg on this website. The warrior is not a bike you buy with gas milage in mind. It is still better than about any car and definatly better than any truck you could be driving. Ride your warrior hard and have fun.

    I think it's not that people are obsessed with mpg's it's that some people only get about 100 mpg's out of a tank of gas and others are getting about 150. I myself only get about 100 and that's been from day one when i bought the bike new from off the show room floor. No matter what mods i do or maps i down load into the pc iii.


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  • 09-27-2008 10:06 AM In reply to

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    You mean 100 miles out of a tank?  I usually get that around Chattanooga, but when I get out somewhere that they don't put corn in the gas then I get about 120 miles between fill-ups.


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