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Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

Last post 05-13-2008 10:48 PM by CBushmaker. 21 replies.
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  • 05-06-2008 10:25 AM

    Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    While doing the DIY hidden caliper mod, the one thing that I was most apprehensive about was running the brake line (how, where, what). After finishing the caliper mount and installing it on the bike, I experimented over and over with the stock line trying to come up with a solution that would allow me to rotate the caliper (up/back) for bleeding. It was obvious that the stock line was the right length for this, but the damn caliper banjo bolt was just not angled correctly (obviously not new news). So I ordered a new Spiegler line, STOCK configuration with their adjustable ends, in black of course. http://www.spieglerusa.com     That allowed me to perfectly align the caliper banjo and loop the line accordingly without twist. From the factory set angle, I adjusted it a c'hair at a time (maybe 10 deg) and kept checking until the angle was just right. Now the banjo attaches to the caliper, loops under the swing arm and is angled just enough to keep a slight amount of pressure against the swing arm to hold it in place, but no twist whatsoever. I looped it gently so it's just kind of sitting there naturally now. It's also held in place, together with the brake reservoir hose, using the stock frame clamp. After assembly, everything rotated up/back for bleeding with no problems.

    For the caliper "tab", I milled up a new one as opposed to reusing the cutoff. Cutoff tab was a bit to short. A friend did the welding (lunch money). Masked all functional areas and painted with high temp, gloss brake cal. paint

    Spiegler line works wonders. Looks good too.

    NOTE: Don't know if anyone else, who bought these lines experienced difficulty when adjusting/rotating the fittings......the kit comes with a couple of plastic vice "adaptors" to clamp around the crimped ends and a plastic rod to insert into the banjo opening for leverage. I tried unsuccessfully many times to clamp tight enough, using these adaptors but the line kept spinning. No matter how much I reefed on the vice handle. So I cut a 1/2" wide, 1 1/2" (or so) long piece of alum roof flashing (I think it's .009" thick) and wrapped it around the crimp and then used the plastic thingies in the vice. Worked like a charm.

    Thanks to everyone that has previously posted info on the Hidden Cal. Greats ideas, tips. Pics along the way.....

     

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  • 05-06-2008 11:20 AM In reply to

    • jimmy2
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    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    Looks awesome nice post and pics. I did a similar post too. I kept the oem brake line for now but its nice knowing the spiegler line works well for this application. I have been thinking of changing the rear and front lines and now after this post I will choose the spiegler lines.



  • 05-06-2008 5:22 PM In reply to

    • Stevo
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    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    Now there is something worth looking in to. Nice Job,... mind if i copy?

    Greetz

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  • 05-06-2008 8:39 PM In reply to

    • AlanH
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    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    dram06war .... Hats off to you for another well engineered, executed and documented mod with excellent photos Yes Thank you...

    Anyone planning on doing this mod should be aware that the 260 swing arm, modified by G&S in this case, is quite adaptable to the hidden caliper and brake hose routing because of the total absence/removal of the lower swing arm aluminum casting in that area Hmm

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  • 05-06-2008 8:44 PM In reply to

    • SR71
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    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    From a former Up-State New Yorker to another...great job....man, I wish I had that talent...I have to pay to have that kind of work done.

    David



  • 05-06-2008 9:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    AlanH, Regarding your comment about the G&S swing arm.....Great point. Important point. You're a walking (maybe sitting) RSWarrior encyclopedia. Thanx 

  • 05-06-2008 9:12 PM In reply to

    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    Hey man, this forum is all about sharing info. Mod away...... 

  • 05-06-2008 10:58 PM In reply to

    • gman
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    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    Nice mod.

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  • 05-07-2008 9:50 AM In reply to

    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    jimmy2,  Thanx for the comments. I recall your post. It was one of several that inspired me. Good luck if you change out your line.  

  • 05-07-2008 9:58 AM In reply to

    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    Former Upsate New Yorker???!!!  Why would you leave this wonderful state. Six months of bad weather, extremely high taxes and utilities and one that just loves to keep it's hands in the pockets of all us working stiffs to help all those that don't want to work. It has good points too however. I guess. 

    Back to Warrior mods.....if you ever come back, we can fix you right up with some low cost DIY's, no problem.  

  • 05-07-2008 2:33 PM In reply to

    • jimmy2
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    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    Where did you order your brake lines from and which part numbers too. I am having trouble finding a local dealer. Are there any web sites selling them?



  • 05-07-2008 2:38 PM In reply to

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    dram06war:

    Former Upsate New Yorker???!!!  Why would you leave this wonderful state. Six months of bad weather, extremely high taxes and utilities and one that just loves to keep it's hands in the pockets of all us working stiffs to help all those that don't want to work. It has good points too however. I guess. 


    Try living in Jersey!!!

     

    Awesome mod man. I am Sooooooo jealous. 260kit AND hidden caliper.  On top of that you have a band saw and can weld alum!?!?!?!?!  /drool



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  • 05-07-2008 6:13 PM In reply to

    • SR71
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    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    Yea...I am from the Finger Lakes area...nice in the summer.  Don't get up there much anymore, but thanks for the thought. 

    David



  • 05-07-2008 9:15 PM In reply to

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    jimmy2, I went directly to Spiegler. http://www.spieglerusa.com/     Called them:(937) 291-1735

    Ordered: S-YA0174 (Rear orig, black/black brake line)   and 20-00002-15 (banjo bolt, black). Only ordered one banjo (for the cal). Reused the stocker down below.  They come in a number of colors and color combinations (line/banjo).

    I used there drop down menu starting with "brake line kits".  Again, it's the stock line/configuration.  total was $79.08 with shipping.

     

  • 05-07-2008 9:22 PM In reply to

    Re: Spiegler Brake Line with DIY Hidden Cal Mod

    But Jersey has the Sapranos!!!

    Bandsaw - yes. Welder - yes. Weld Alum - haven't tried yet.  A buddy did it. He'll do more and mill up the tabs too. 

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