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Long but worth the watch, IMO.

http://eyeblast.tv:80/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

Interesting video. I think some things are "stretched" a bit, but overall it proposes an interesting viewpoint. Can he be trusted? Sadly, can any of those 3 idiots be trusted to sit on the oval office? My answer is no. If it came down to either Hillary or Obama.....I'd have to choose "none of the above".

Oh wow - what utter propagandist crap.  Even Creationists would stand in awe of such masterful use of out of context quotes and misinformation.  Seems like half that video is about his name, and the other half is about his pastor.

Watch out everyone!  His name is Hussein and he went to a Muslim school!  He's obviously an islamic terrorist!

My name is Greek.  I am not Greek.

I went to a Catholic school for a decade.  I am not Catholic.

I hate to break it to you fundie right-wingers, but your pastors are ten times crazier than Obama's.  They just package their crazy to the liking of their audiences, just as Reverend Wright packages his crazy to the liking of his audience.

While some of the items in the video do raise questions as to exactly what his actions as president will be, it does so in such a sensationalistic manner that I have to debunk the entire video. If "some" portion is false or misleading you cannot blindly accept any of it.

 The Biggest problem I have with Obama is I have no idea where the hell he stands. He SAYS alot. He doesnt have enough of a track record to be able to go back and prove he means what he says. I would still pick him over the C&^nt but thats not saying much.

 Ultimately what pisses me off is that we should not give a F&^K about who is less likely to mess things up. We should be caring who is the best person to run this country. F&^K the parties. F&^K the lobbyists. Stop the sensationalistic bullsh&t in the media and let the "people" decide who should be a proper candidate for president. NONE of the current F&^KHeads are.

I disagree with you Damon. the quotes are not out of context, nor are they misinformation. These are actual facts and in-context quotations about the man's life. Now, I can agree if you're saying that painting him as a Muslim is a stretch. However, the comments that he and his wife, and his pastor, have made are so absolutely ludicrous that as a citizen, a naturalized citizen no-less, I personally find them offensive...and he wants to be our president? I am not a propagandist. I look for facts before making judgment.

I've lived here for 32 of my 37 years and seem to love this country, and believe in this country, more than people who were born here. This is the best country in the world!  We give more than any other country across the board, in blood, sweat, tears and money.

This man's character is not what he's making it out to be and that's what this video is trying to bring across. I've been following the election coverage closely. I find it disheartening that anyone can fall for such an empty suit.  The man speaks well but says nothing. His pastor speaks too much and IS A RACIST. The entire Democratic Party race baits and blames Republicans. Little do people know that it was the Democrats that started the KKK.

I agree with you saying that Wright is "packaging his crazy to the liking of his audience", but he's still preaching racism, and everyone in the audience is gleefully nodding and going along. Obama is a liar, and a politician, which are pretty much synonymous.

Obama and his wife are covering up their true beliefs, especially his wife. I personally think she wears the pants in the family and he just goes along with it. I understand that the general belief of the Democratic Party is that all people should be provided for. However, his form of government is not how we are going to survive as a nation. He will tax us to death and so will Clinton, and possibly McCain. I may be a Republican, but I'm not blind, nor am I stupid. I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker, and I'm not a racist, and I'm surely not a right wing nut job.

By the way, I was born Christian, and now I'm an atheist, but I still believe in this country, its values, and what it stands for. I also believe in one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. This is not hypocrisy -- it's love of country above all else.

At least I know where I stand. Now it would be grand if we knew where our elected officials stand. In some cases, it's plain as day.

AyRab, you need to post more often!  It's refreshing to see such a well thought-out post, even though I don't fully agree with you.

I say the quotes were out of context because, in all cases, there is a lengthy and satisfactory explanation for the issues addressed, such as the flag pin and the failure to place hand over heart during the anthem.  To me, it seems as though Obama is not concerned with the pomp, ceremony, pageantry, and symbolism many folks try to pass off as patriotism.  I think he feels as though we should judge him by his actions, rather than by his adherence to silly ritual.  As a former Catholic, I can relate to and respect this attitude.

Damon:

I hate to break it to you fundie right-wingers, but your pastors are ten times crazier than Obama's.  They just package their crazy to the liking of their audiences, just as Reverend Wright packages his crazy to the liking of his audience.

What a rediculous statement....

For a "smart" guy, you sure do make some really STUPID commments.  I suppose this was the bait....Hope you get a bite.

 It's funny to me that if AyRab had said he was a Christian, you would have hammered him instead of trying to make a pal.

Damon, there is no legal reason you cannot chose to live in virtually any country you choose. It is even possible for you to denounce your citizenship and become a citizen of many other countries. So, you do have a choice. (just clarifying..)

As for pride in your country. I dont think someone should be proud of the place they live simply because they live there. Thats stupid. But, if you look at what our country stands for, what it means in the world. What opportunities exist here that are un-imaginable in other countries. What good America has done in its 200+ years in existance (as compared to the history of other countries THOUSANDS of years old) then how could you fault someone for being proud? I personally am not happy about the current state of affairs. Almost to the point of moving to the UAE a few years ago. (I had "greener grass" goggles on) But, in general, and especially if we can turn things around, I will always stand tall to call myself an American. Having said that, I do not recite the "religious" phrases included into our Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance. But I do stand and face the flag and remove my hat. If I were in the military I would sooner salute (show of respect) than put my hand over my heart (show of "faith") during any ceremony. I do not pray during moments of silence, for fallen heros or otherwise, but I do bow my head. To me, if you are truely proud to be something then you show it to the world. Otherwise you should not use the word.

And Ken, dont you think there are hundreds if not thousands of priests, pastors, ministers, reverends, preachers in the world condemming and making imflammatory statements against those parties that the religion looks down upon? (Generally those that go against the teachings of their religions. Blastphemers. Homosexuals. Atheists. Etc) There may be alot of good ones out there. But that doesnt mean there are no idiots like Write on the white side of the fence.

Ken (A.K.A. Big Shasta):

Damon:

I hate to break it to you fundie right-wingers, but your pastors are ten times crazier than Obama's.  They just package their crazy to the liking of their audiences, just as Reverend Wright packages his crazy to the liking of his audience.

 

What a rediculous statement....

For a "smart" guy, you sure do make some really STUPID commments.  I suppose this was the bait....Hope you get a bite.

 It's funny to me that if AyRab had said he was a Christian, you would have hammered him instead of trying to make a pal.

As usual, you make an accusation without providing any substance to back it up.  Pastors say crazy, hateful, and hypocritical things all the time.  Hiding bigotry behind Jesus is nothing new.  There is plenty of evidence for this statement, in the form of folks like Phelps, Haggard, Falwell, Robertson, et al.  If you're going to call my comment ridiculous, you should at least back it up your assertion with some evidence.

AyRab is articulate, presents his argument logically and provides data to back up his statements.  You, on the other hand, simply insulted me, misspelled several words, and generally added nothing constructive to the conversation.  I've never tried to "make a pal" with you because you are often mean-spirited and inarticulate, and you usually fail to add anything interesting or substantial to this sort of discussion.  The fact that you're a Christian is irrelevant.

Damon:

Oh wow - what utter propagandist crap.  Even Creationists would stand in awe of such masterful use of out of context quotes and misinformation.  Seems like half that video is about his name, and the other half is about his pastor.

Watch out everyone!  His name is Hussein and he went to a Muslim school!  He's obviously an islamic terrorist!

My name is Greek.  I am not Greek.

I went to a Catholic school for a decade.  I am not Catholic.

I hate to break it to you fundie right-wingers, but your pastors are ten times crazier than Obama's.  They just package their crazy to the liking of their audiences, just as Reverend Wright packages his crazy to the liking of his audience.

Time to get the popcorn, this is going to be a long one

RobRiguez:

Damon, there is no legal reason you cannot chose to live in virtually any country you choose. It is even possible for you to denounce your citizenship and become a citizen of many other countries. So, you do have a choice. (just clarifying..)

As for pride in your country. I dont think someone should be proud of the place they live simply because they live there. Thats stupid. But, if you look at what our country stands for, what it means in the world. What opportunities exist here that are un-imaginable in other countries. What good America has done in its 200+ years in existance then how could you fault someone for being proud? I personally am not happy about the current state of affairs. Almost to the point of moving to the UAE a few years ago. (I had "greener grass" goggles on) But, in general, and especially if we can turn things around, I will always stand tall to call myself an American. Having said that, I do not recite the "religious" phrases included into our Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance. But I do stand and face the flag and remove my hat. If I were in the military I would sooner salute (show of respect) than put my hand over my heart (show of "faith") during any ceremony. I do not pray during moments of silence, for fallen heros or otherwise, but I do bow my head. To me, if you are truely proud to be something then you show it to the world. Otherwise you should not use the word.

And Ken, dont you think there are hundreds if not thousands of priests, pastors, ministers, reverends, preachers in the world condemming and making imflammatory statements against those parties that the religion looks down upon? (Generally those that go against the teachings of their religions. Blastphemers. Homosexuals. Atheists. Etc)

Definitely some good points there.  I know I can renounce my citizenship if I choose to - my point was that I was born into my US citizenship, so receiving it in the first place wasn't my choice.  I will say that a legal immigrant who becomes a US citizen by choice has more reason to be "proud to be American" than someone who is born into it...

I have lived in other countries, and believe me, I know how great America can be, especially by comparison, which is why I'm happy to be an American.  Maybe we're just mincing words or playing semantics, but I think "pride" is the wrong word to use to express my positive feelings about my country, that's all.  I also agree with you about certain aspects of respectful adherence to ceremony having merit, although I generally dislike ceremony and ritual.

Ok, I have watched it and mentally filed it away as "crap". The problem is stretching the truth to make a point discredits the entire effort. Case in point, as per the author, "Obama refuses to hold his hand over his heart", yet anyone with access to snopes can tell you that sometimes he does and sometimes he does not. It does not matter if this was intentional or an oversight, either way, any judgments based on this "evidence" is automatically wrong.

Damon:

....Maybe we're just mincing words or playing semantics, but I think "pride" is the wrong word to use to express my positive feelings about my country, that's all.  I also agree with you about certain aspects of respectful adherence to ceremony having merit, although I generally dislike ceremony and ritual.

To clarify I was speaking in general about putting someone down for being proud of their country. Not that you should or should not be proud. And that Obama should not say he is Proud yet is unwilling to wear a stupid pin. If hes not willing to show his pride to the world then HE shouldnt use the word to describe himself. Just as you havent.

A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratically controlled Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for "change" in 2006, and we got it!

Remember, it's Congress that makes the law.not the President. He has to work with what's handed him.

Quote of the Day: "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.  I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." - Barack Obama

This Country is a Great country with deep Beliefs and a bunch of Idiots are trying to Turn it into something its was NEVER supose to be. Just GO Somewhere else Party Poopers!!!

As you walk up the steps to the
building which houses the U.S Supreme Court
you can see near the top of the building a row
of the world's law givers and each one is
facing one in the middle who is facing forward
with a full frontal view .. it is Moses and he
is holding the Ten Commandments!



. DID YOU KNOW?

As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the
Two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments
Engraved on each lower portion of each door.



DID YOU KNOW?


As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see
The wall, right above where the Supreme Court
judges sit, a display of the Ten Commandments!






DID YOU KNOW?





There are Bible verses etched in stone all
over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in
Washington , D.C.


DID YOU KNOW?



James Madison, the fourth president, known as
'The Father of Our Constitution' made the
following statement:

' We have staked the whole of all our political
institutions upon the capacity of mankind for
self-government, upon the capacity of each and
all of us to govern ourselves, to control
ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to
the Ten Commandments of God.'


DID YOU KNOW?





Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding
Father of our country said:

'It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too
often that this great nation was founded not
by religionists but by Christians, not on
religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ'.


DID YOU KNOW?


Every session of Congress begins with a prayer
by a paid preacher, whose salary has been paid
by the taxpayer since 1777.


DID YOU KNOW?



Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the
Constitution were members of the established
orthodox churches in the colonies.


DID YOU KNOW?
Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would
overstep their authority and instead of
interpreting the law would begin making law
an oligarchy

the rule of few over many.


DID YOU KNOW?


The very first Supreme Court Justice, John
Jay, said:



'Americans should select and prefer Christians
as their rulers.'

How then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 220 years in this
country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?

Lets put it around the world and let the world
see and remember what this great country was
built on.




I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't. Now it is your turn....
It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, it is very hard to understand why there is such a mess about having the Ten
Commandments on display or 'In God We Trust' on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the other 14% to Sit Down and SHUT UP!!!